[kj] Lecture Last Night

Thu Jun 18 08:05:33 EDT 2015

Is this spiritual pilgrimage called Pradakshima? I have read about this and you have to go to something like 49 different temples in a particular order which helps kill the ego. I would really love to do this, but who am I kidding. I'm in Australia and it's obviously UK only. I plan on going for about 6months and really getting into their culture and staying in small villages. Loved hearing about his talk. Cheers
Tracey
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> So, last
> night then. 
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> off, two items of news. Jaz and Geordie want to take 100 Gatherers to India
> at some point (October next year, I think) to complete a several-day
> pilgrimage around a holy mountain visiting various temples. I forget the name
> of the pilgrimage, but it is a well-established Hindu pilgrimage that takes
> place around a full moon.
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> ?If
> you?re on the dole and can?t afford it, we?ll just find a way for you to go?.
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> Jaz said that
> him and Geordie wanted to act as ?mentors? to the 100 to help them identify
> their inner genius. The idea is, IIRC, to then meet at the next full moon in
> the UK, and then again a year later to see how much life has changed.
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> item of news, is that Jaz plans to do more lectures around the country between
> tour dates.
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> The whole
> activity appears aimed at, as I say, helping those who want to, to identify
> their inner genius.
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> Last
> night was a game of two halves. The first half was about the New World Order
> and the various conspiracy-theory spokes that come out of that topic. So we
> heard that the 100-year-old Rockefeller is at the centre of the NWO and wants
> to finish his project before he dies. And we heard about FEMA camps, about vapour
> trails dropping nano worms, control of population through food supply, and fluoride
> in the water?.
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> Frankly
> it was a bit of a ramble so a bit hard for me to put something down coherently
> about it. Perhaps others could do a better job.
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> Although
> it was moderately engaging in places, when the break came and I turned around
> to see that my two pals (who aren?t fans) had left early; I wasn?t surprised.
> You had to be very sympathetic to Jaz to sit through non-sourced and surely in
> some cases wildly exaggerated claims. 
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> example, he spoke of a US senator who did or found something out (can?t
> remember what it was but it was alarming), but he didn?t name the senator so
> how can that be verified? Why wouldn?t you name the senator? It just wreaks of
> pseudo-academic research.
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> example, this time of exaggeration: he mentioned that a member of KJ was close
> to Rockefeller and, by implication, has some great looking-hole into the whole
> conspiracy shebang. 
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> Obviously
> he?s referring to BPF here? but c?mon, are we seriously expected to believe
> that BPF and Rockefeller are tight? Are we supposed to believe that
> Rockefeller, who knows presidents, prime ministers, celebrities and the other
> four people that run the universe, suddenly, in the very final years of his
> life, as he?s getting towards 100 and going to die, thinks to himself, ?I know,
> I?m going to become really close to that guy there, the one who plays drums in
> a band. He once dusted down the toes of an ancient Buddha sculpture for my
> Foundation, where he works part-time along with 14,000 other people who I also
> don?t know. I?m going to let this guy into my inner sanctum and I?m going to
> tell him everything.? 
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> Course he
> didn?t do that. Course he f-ing didn?t.
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> The
> second half I suppose dwelt a bit more on the spiritual, though again it?s a
> bit hard to sum it up as the road he steered through this topic had many turns,
> junctions, and needed resurfacing in places.
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> He ended
> though with a very nice reading and seemed moved as he left the stage quickly.
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> Forgive
> my somewhat negative review. I?m sure there?s lots I?ve missed. It was as
> always a great privilege to sit in with Coleman and I think it?s great that he
> does these things. 
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> He was in
> a friendly, relaxed mood and there were many flashes of humour.
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