[kj] BFI - Film
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Feb 27 09:57:51 EST 2015
I know I speak for all my fellow Yank Gatherers when I say I am POSITIVELY GAGGING TO SEE THIS FUCKING FILM.
Alex in NYC
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks... if I remember rightly, one or two people didn't want to talk about Jaz's
> time in Iceland to Shaun, even though he asked them - but don't quote me on that.
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> As for the liver & maggots, I wouldn't call it intrigue, its just that over the years
> the story got distorted (a common mistake was that it was the NME, not Melody Maker) and
> that Jaz physically attacked people during the incident (he didn't, of course - but possibly
> only because he couldn't get in to the actual office.) Someone once told me they heard Jaz
> had marched into the office brandishing a sword. It's an insignificant story in the scheme of
> things but it somehow took on a life of its own!
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> Yes for me I think the best part of the whole thing was having BPF on screen so much -
> definitely a very grounded individual and essential to counteract some of the wilder Jaz stuff.
> I hope Shaun is pleased with the end result - and is now enjoying a nice relaxing life after
> 10 years in the bear pit.
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> On 27 February 2015 at 14:54, nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com <mailto:gasw30 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> You're contribution was very good, and Matt Smith's.
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> You're totally right about the guy swinging the sword. It was actually a bit silly.
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> Do you know if Shaun tried to interview the Icelandic Jaz haters?
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> You mention that the "true" story of the maggots has finally come out. I didn't realise there was an intrigue. Can you elaborate on that?
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> I think one of the most interesting comments was BPF saying that sometimes he really likes the idea that KJ have produced this incredibly powerful music, and nobody really knows about it.
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> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:17:28 +0100
> From: 65snoopy at gmail.com <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>
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> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] BFI - Film
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> Well, I just saw the film last night (February 26 - as it transpired 10 minutes into the film,
> the 36th anniversary of the band's formation, synchronicity fans).
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> As an extremely minor player in this whole saga, I have to say I am honoured and not a little freaked out
> to see my ugly mug popping up all through the film. I had NO IDEA this was going to happen.
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> Shaun contacted my in 2011 to ask if he could pay a visit and do an interview. He was filming
> in Iceland, so Oslo was a relatively short hop. I thought it was going to be a bloke with a handycam
> but when I met him at the train station, I've never seen one guy carry so much luggage and equipment.
> He stayed at mine for a night and after he'd spent a while setting up in the living room - lights, various cameras -
> I realised this was a serious endeavour and began to get a little nervous... I was not comfortable in front of the
> camera and ended up downing quite a few whiskies during the whole process.
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> He asked a lot of questions, and afterwards we went to the pub and had a good old KJ-related
> chat. He was mostly happy to be out of Iceland - he said it was quite stressful filming up there,
> and while there were a few people happy to talk, there were also a few who still hate Jaz
> with a passion to this day. He was alarmed that they still carried such strong feelings about someone
> they hadn't seen for almost 30 years! I was impressed with his dedication - as he related various
> Jaz tales from the previous 7 years, it was obvious how this was a labour of love (and hate) for him.
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> I put Shaun in touch with Mat Smith (the former Melody Maker journalist in the film) as Shaun was saying he
> really needed more from someone else who was involved in the music press at the time. Mat was really
> the only other music journo at the time who both knew the band relatively well and was a genuine fan.
> (Mat and I knew each other from college days and had gone to quite a few KJ gigs together.)
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> Shaun said he would probably use some of my quotes - I got the impression that he chiefly wanted
> the liver and maggots story from me and Mat, and I was happy that the true version of what happened
> was going to be recorded for posterity. The other story that he was interested to hear was
> that I had been at the Hammersmith Palais gig in 82, when the TV camera in the crowd collapsed,
> the day Jaz legged it to Iceland.
> But I didn't think I would be appearing at any other time.
> So... bloody hell.
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> Overall I enjoyed it - I thought there could be more clarity about the women being struck by
> lightning story, and the interview with the bloke dancing about in front of the pyramids with his sword
> didn't really add anything. A bit more Geordie would have been good, BPF and Youth were great,
> just a shame he never got to interview Raven.
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> And by the way, at the end, when we were talking about "the fifth member", when I used the phrase "the force" it was
> not meant to sound like a snarky Star Wars piss take. Although it possibly did.
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> On 23 February 2015 at 15:51, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> Surely that would have put him off the idea...? ;)
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> On Mon, 23/2/15, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [kj] BFI - Film
> To: "jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>" <jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> Date: Monday, 23 February, 2015, 14:32
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> It was
> the manner of the attack threatened
> It was sexual!
> Haha.
> Must have seen my
> arse!!!!
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> 2015, at 12:08, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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> "I'll have you attacked" is
> roughly on a par with "I'll tell my big brother and
> he'll duff you up".
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> To: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com <mailto:adrianwason at btinternet.com>>;
> A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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> Guy called Steve Lawrence also known as Snet. One of
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> He made some threats toward me back in the day.
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> On 23 Feb 2015, at 07:47, "adrianwason at btinternet.com <mailto:adrianwason at btinternet.com>"
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> Date : 22/02/2015 - 12:52 (GMTST)
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> To : gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> Subject : Re: [kj] BFI - Film
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> If I were you, I would seriously think twice
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> 16:36, Darren A. Peace <darrenpeace at gmail.com <mailto:darrenpeace at gmail.com>>
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> Indeed
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> > On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:58, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
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> >> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:52 AM, darrenpeace at gmail.com <mailto:darrenpeace at gmail.com>
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> >> I thought it was great. The Q&A was fun too.
> It’s much better than I expected something largely made up
> of YouTube and archive footage would be. I agree it is a
> little long at present, but as I expect Shaun will have the
> additional material on the DVD even if the release version
> does get some editing, it’s not a problem for me.
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> >> I liked that they were flogging autographed copies
> of Letters From Cythera (without the CD).
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> >> I can report that Jaz's eyes narrowed a bit
> when I mentioned Gems Of Power during the Q&A.
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> >>> On 20 Feb 2015, at 13:24, Jerry Butson <jerry at fleamusic.com <mailto:jerry at fleamusic.com>>
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