[kj] Killing Joke is not an Industrial band

[Adam Helfer]

What we may perceive and term them as, could be much different than how others may.
Others who may have a broader/perhaps less nuanced scope on music...

Obv they have been pegged Industrial, for a reason - and ongoing use of samples, and keyboards can do that..

I remember when the first Shelter demo came out - and people said they were Industrial-- because basically, they used samples in 2 songs..
And they wernt anywhere near industrial...

Adam 







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> On Apr 25, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't consider them industrial either. Some of their album (specifically EDAVRE, Pandemonium and MMXII) have an industrial 'flavour' to them, and they've obviously been an influence on the development of the genre (and the genre has clearly been a gateway to the band for many people), but I wouldn't consider them industrial per se; it's just one of several genres they dip their toes into.
> 
> On Sat, 25/4/15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Subject: [kj]  Killing Joke is not an Industrial band
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2015, 15:50
> 
> I’m gong to try to revive
> discussions here, as most of the KJ groups on Facebook are
> public, and I don’t necessarily want to trouble my
> non-Kj-addicted friends with my Joke-related concerns (more
> than I already do). 
> 
> I’m sure we’ve addressed this at various points in the
> past, but why are Killing Joke ever cited as
> “industrial”?
> 
> Maybe sensibility-wise they have something in common, but
> when it comes to the signature trappings of all things
> Industrial — whether your definition of same stems from
> originators like Throbbing Gristle, Neubauten and Cabaret
> Voltaire or laughable latter-day dinks who wear space
> goggles and black fishnet stockings in your local shopping
> mall — Killing Joke have never really strayed from
> guitar/bass/drums/keyboards. No banging on metal or
> pile-drivers of clinky-clanky things at all.
> 
> I mean, there are assuredly elements of metal and punk (and,
> for that matter, traces of reggae and disco ) in the actual
> *sound* of the band, but I never had seen how they’ve been
> qualified as Industrial. Killing Joke are no more an
> industrial band than Public Image Ltd. are/were.
> 
> Of course, loads of industrial bands have ripped Killing
> Joke off (hello, Ministry, NIN et al.), but that doesn’t
> make the `Joke industrial.
> 
> At all.
> 
> No it doesn’t.
> 
> Weigh in, haters.
> 
> Alex in NYC
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