[kj] New KJ festival date: Sideways in Helsinki on June 12: FYI

[Damon Cook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oFkfX2Bzk

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:41 PM, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
gathering at misera.net> wrote:

> Suddenly I like Steve Albini again.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
> To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:06
> Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ festival date: Sideways in Helsinki on June 12:
> FYI
>
>   Steve Albini's cranky old man-take on Odd Future, which begat both Mr.
> Sweatshirt and Tyler the Creator, is worth revisiting here:
>
> *MESSAGE BOARD POST FROM STEVE ALBINI:*
>
> My band shared an airport shuttle with [ *Odd Future*] in Barcelona. They
> piled onto the shuttle late, after finally getting corralled by their
> minder, who was nursing a head wound with an ice bag wrapped in a towel.
> They piled in, niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver,
> boasting into the air unbidden about getting their dicks sucked and calling
> everyone in the area a faggot. Then one of them lit a joint (or a pipe, I
> didn't look) and told the driver to shut the fuck up nigger and smoked it
> anyway. A female passenger tried to engage one of them in conversation, but
> he just stared at her with a dead-to-me stare while his seatmate flipped
> double birds in her face.
>
> The whole trip they complained about not being at a McDonalds and
> repeatedly shouted for the motherfucker to pull over so they could get some
> fucking McDonalds nigger. Interspersed with the McDonalds requests were
> shouted boasts about how often they masturbated and fucked bitches nigger
> and got paid like a motherfucker fifty grand like a motherfucker. They
> continued complaining that the trip was taking too long and insisted they
> be fed immediately all the way to the airport, where their minder
> presumably fed them.
>
>
> I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of
> us would have regretted it.
>
>
> I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly
> people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express
> something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of
> that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands
> myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as
> windows into the soul of the creator. Ultimately they are, of course, but
> not necessarily in the crude autobiographical way they are often
> interpreted.
>
>
>
> I know all that, so I am never quick to judge a person based on a
> superficial reading of creative output. Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom
> I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in
> me, to use another rapey example. Michael Gerald from Killdozer said it
> best in an interview, when the journalist remarked that he seemed like a
> nice fellow, which was unexpected given that the characters in his songs
> are often repellent. "Oh, that's not us," he said, "that's the crazy people
> we sing about." In that light, I am one hundred percent behind Odd Future's
> right to rap about what they wanna rap about, and if she don't like it fuck
> her.
>
>
>
> And also fuck me. It's none of my business what they wanna. I'm not part
> of the audience for hip hop, and as a non-dilettante I don't generally
> respond to it when I hear it, so I can't make any critical assessment of
> Odd Future's music on its own terms, but they go out of their way to make
> it clear that this is not a case of regular people making music about
> assholes, but assholes making music about being assholes. I have no time
> for that. I don't respond kindly to it when Ted Nugent does it either.
>
>
> If the whole thing is a put-on, a bit of Vincent Gallo life-as-theater for
> the benefit of whoever happens to be sitting next to them, that's no
> excuse. It's being an asshole about being an asshole.
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: vassifer at earthlink.net
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:51:06 -0400
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ festival date: Sideways in Helsinki on June 12:
> FYI
>
>  I hate to sound like the old man I so inarguably am but …. Earl
> Sweatshirt? Who on god’s green earth would pay money for bullshit like
> that? I haven’t even heard him, and I hate everything about him.
>
>  Alex in NYC
>
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>   On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Rheinhold Squeegee < kjlist at live.com>
> wrote:
>
>  A curious booking, but a gig is a gig. While it includes Jesus & Mary
> Chain, it also features Azalea Banks, Earl Sweatshirt, Ariel Pink and a lot
> of other hipster business.
>
> At least it's not all the usual gargle-metal bands.
>
> http://www.sidewayshelsinki.fi/
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