[kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

Fri Oct 24 07:05:52 EDT 2014

Ok, maybe terrible is a bit strong but there are tracks on KJ2003 which are just dreadful. Total Invasion is a dirge, Implant is a mess and if I never hear Dark Forces or House again I will be a happy man. Loose Cannon was better in its 2001 session form but not much. The rest is good to Ok but it's my least favourite album. 

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:17:45 +1300
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG

All of the albums cited as worse than OTG have some decent to standout tracks. Nothing on OTG comes close to Savage Freedom, criminally under-rated! Great momentum and drive, a real stomper… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuR8046V4hw  There’s Gratitude and Invocation on Hosannas, and whoever mentioned 2003 as terrible – you take that back. You take that right back right now.  From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of bongo
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2014 6:08 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG not quite getting the Hosannas hate, the opening is quite a fury..SOJA is my weak link, tho i still like it a bit  :)  

"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..." On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:56 PM, <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:"Cheese" and "knob" are VERY hard to combine in a sentence without evoking certain connotations.---- Original Message ----
From: The Stranger via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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Sent: Fri, Oct 24, 2014, 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTGI have to agree with FP here.  The songwriting on OTG is really solid.  The atmospheres evoked are really eerie and otherworldly.  One thing I love is the weird vocal melodies with notes that are miles apart on the scale..   Could the cheese knob have been turned down a few notches on some of the keyboards?  Yes. Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix) is definitely the worst.  Possibly even the worst thing that has ever happened.  In the world.  Ever.   Killing Joke - Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix)Killing Joke - Stay One Jump Ahead (extended mix)View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo That rap!  Like getting slapped in the face with a rotten fish.  Here's a sample of the rap relating to Geordie's guitar playing "the sound fer sound, resounding into yer brain, ya know, so you can never run away, he pumpin like a train!  Chifity chaff, but I'm a goin' down the track, because I do what I feel, because he never takes slack!!"  wtf?  Also, I just never need to hear the words "the posse in da house" on a Killing Joke record..  Ever.   It reminds me of a time that I met Jaz outside of the NYC bar where gatherers were meeting before the show.  Jaz's young nephew was there filming and interviewing gatherers and the way he was speaking was as if he were a hardcore rapper straight outta Compton.  At one point Jaz turned to him and screamed "....WHY ARE YOU TALKING LIKE A BLACK PERSON?!?!?!?!"  hahahahahaaaa!!! From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
To: The Gathering ((the band!)) <gathering at misera.net> 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Poll: Worst song off OTG at the risk of being buried up to my neck and stoned, I quite like most of OTG. Yes, it’s all a bit cheesy and naffly produced, but the actual musical structures and lyrics are great. It’s just not been very well done. It has dated horribly though.Unto the Ends I absolutely love, especially the lyrics and progressions are fantastic. It’s a shame it was never what it was intended to be; a Jaz Coleman solo album as a lot of the ideas are pretty solid. Like I said, it’s just been badly executed. I’d love to hear a lot of OTG reworked, but it’ll never happen.Still, without OTG, EDAVRE to where they are now would never have happened. For me by far the worst track off it is on the CD version: Stay One Jump Ahead extended mix with Jaz’s embarrassing dad rapping.Quite possibly the worst Killing Joke song EVER produced.Ironically, the opening guitar riff is one of Geordies best. For me Democracy is the most disappointing/least played. On 23 Oct 2014, at 09:27, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfI8vtuj9vM sounds like Sting and Peter Gabriel having a wank in a biscuit tin.   
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