[kj] Music wanker poll

Brian Whitehead bawhitehead at gmail.com
Wed Nov 20 03:50:20 EST 2013


Did anybody mention Wire?

Brian.


On 20 November 2013 08:47, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:


> Sorry for the late reply, end-of-paper assignment stole my life for 2

> weeks. The human brain at age 40 is a sad, sad thing (if you’ve lived your

> life properly that is).

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> I noticed that about Rocket from the Crypt too Squeege. Pere Ubu is an

> almost unimpeachable band to nerd out on, what with the Rainman act, the

> impossibility of working with David Thomas, and the great bloody music

> (amongst the ‘musique concrete’ crap)

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> Anyway, thanks for all the replies to this thread, I’m going to look up

> some of those links you lot shared now that I’ve struggled my way through

> probably barely a pass mark in my assignment.

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> And more importantly, if I’m ever invited to a party again (snort), I’ll

> be able to be that much more of a boor.

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> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> *On Behalf Of *Rheinhold Squeegee

> *Sent:* Sunday, 17 November 2013 4:26 p.m.

> *To:* Gathering Gathering

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> And speaking of, Rocket from the Tombs begat both Pere Ubu and the Dead

> Boys after the death of founder Peter Laughner. They toured with David

> Thomas and Cheetah Chrome back in 2006. I saw them in Minneapolis and it

> was a good show if you don't mind 53-year-old guys singing, "Don't need no

> mom and dad..." and "Ain't it fun when you know that you're gonna die

> young."

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> From: kjlist at live.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:20:02 -0600

> Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> You would not have been the first person to smugly try to correct "Tombs"

> vs. "Crypt" and you would have been cast off the music snob Mt. Olympus

> with all the others. ;)

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> I was in a prog rock forum years ago observing a discussion of early 70's

> UK prog rock act Nirvana when some sad sack made a Kurt Cobain reference.

> The fury that followed cannot be described. I imagine there was nothing

> left but a smoking crater.

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> From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com

> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:13:29 +1300

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> postponed indefinitely..."

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> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> wrote:

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> I would have been inclined to correct you on Rocket from the Tombs, given

> that I’ve never heard of them, whereas I have heard of Rocket from the

> Crypt.

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> i saw Rocket from the Crypt in Auckland in '97....

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> wank wank!

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> As a quick Wikipedia search has shown, such a foolhardy mistake would have

> been earned me a thoroughly good dressing down, eviction, and possibly

> excommunication from the Music Wanker Convention / fraternity.

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> I have so much to learn ;)

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> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> *On Behalf Of *Rheinhold Squeegee

> *Sent:* Saturday, 16 November 2013 4:40 a.m.

> *To:* Gathering Gathering

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> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> Rocket from the Tombs

> Electric Eels

> Half-Japanese

> James Blood Ulmer

> Au Pairs

> Klaus Nomi

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> etc. etc.

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> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:06:12 +0000

> From: tabazan at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> >I'd add Jandek and Lycopodeia to the list.

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> Has someone nicked my name?

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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM, powens <powens at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Great call on Nina Hagen and MX-80. I'd add Jandek and Lycopodeia to the

> list.

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> On 15 November 2013 14:51, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

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> R. Stevie Moore

> Deaf School

> Zolar X

> Belfegore

> MX-80 Sound

> Nina Hagen

> et. al.

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> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:35:07 +0000

> From: tabazan at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

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> Casually throwing an original copy of Rude Bootleg by Cardiacs on the

> table should get some attention

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> Hugely influential and more hated by the music press (back in the day)

> than even Killing Joke it took Tim having several heart attacks and a

> massive stroke to get them any form of acceptance

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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> wrote:

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> Ooh, toughie. Lots to choose from (and isn't THAT a dick comment?)

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> I'm going to go with the Modern Lovers. Arguably as influential as The

> Velvet Underground and the Stooges, yet hardly as renowned, the original

> foursome made only one set of demos (later "produced" by John Cale and

> released as an album years later by California indie label, Bezerkly), but

> those end results were as seismic in shaping punk as anything by Iggy or

> Lou.

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> The original line-up featured Jerry Harrison on keyboards (later to join

> Talking Heads) and Dave Robinson on drums (later to join The Cars). At one

> point in the proceedings, lead singer/strategist Jonathan Richman let his

> eccentricities hold sway and decided that he no longer wanted make music

> that would "offend the ears of children." As such, he told Dave Robinson to

> quit the drums and provide percussion by rolling up a newspaper and

> slapping it on his knee, to which Dave replied, essentially, "fuck that and

> fuck you, I'm out of here." That incarnation of the band -- unsurprisingly

> -- fell apart, and the blunt, proto-punky energy of the Modern Lovers

> vanished, replaced by Richman's bizarre penchant for childlike whimsy (a

> huge influence on later acts like Beat Happening -- WHO FUCKING SUCK -- and

> Jack White).

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> Richman's solo albums have their own merits, but in terms of a criminally

> undersung, yet wholly influential slab of vinyl by a band who should be a

> household name -- to my mind -- one is hard pressed to cite someone more

> significant than The Modern Lovers.

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> YOUR TURN!

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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:37 AM, bongo wrote:

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> kitchens of distinction

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> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> postponed indefinitely..."

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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> wrote:

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> Given that name-dropping Killing Joke (esp ‘early’ Killing Joke) is the

> music-wanker equivalent of a triple word score in Scrabble, the poll

> question is as follows:

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> Which artist or band would you name-drop to get the highest possible score

> at a music-wanker convention?

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> Criteria include but are not limited to: lack of attempt at commercial

> success / downright self-sabotage, uniqueness, humour, social commentary,

> mental illness, artistic pain, substance dependency, early / mysterious /

> humorous death, ability to use ancillary wank-terms such as ‘musique

> concrete’, ‘the sound of the earth vomiting’ and so forth.

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> I’m going with ‘What is Pere Ubu<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYqvtHzr48>

> ?’

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