[kj] Music wanker poll

Jim Harper jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Nov 15 11:03:10 EST 2013


My knowledge of Japanese punk extends no further than The Stalin and Zibet, alas. It's difficult enough to find material by fair-sized Japanese bands, anything obscure or out of the mainstream is a nightmare...

Jim.

On Fri, 15/11/13, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, 15 November, 2013, 15:55

My goto
reference used to be Rodriguez. And I only knew of him
because of my location in Detroit and being friends with his
daughter. 
Nowadays that's tough. Either the bands have
gotten recognition or are to obscure to question why
they're not bigger. And I no longer am on the
pulse. 
Someone mentioned Japanese bands. I'm miffed
that Gauze isn't huge in the punk/hardcore here in the
US. If they ever came back it would be a big deal. But not
as big as they should be. Even the Nu Yawk thick necks would
love them. 
Chris
On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:40 AM, "Rheinhold Squeegee"
<kjlist at live.com>
wrote:




Rocket from the Tombs
Electric Eels
Half-Japanese
James Blood Ulmer
Au Pairs
Klaus Nomi

etc. etc.

Date: Fri, 15 Nov
2013 15:06:12 +0000
From: tabazan at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

>I'd add Jandek
and Lycopodeia to the list.

Has someone nicked my name?


On Fri, Nov 15,
2013 at 2:59 PM, powens <powens at gmail.com>
wrote:

Great call on Nina Hagen and MX-80. I'd add
Jandek and Lycopodeia to the list.


On 15 November 2013
14:51, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
wrote:






R. Stevie Moore
Deaf School
Zolar X
Belfegore
MX-80 Sound
Nina Hagen
et. al.

Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:35:07 +0000
From: tabazan at gmail.com



To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Music wanker poll

Casually throwing an original copy of
Rude Bootleg by Cardiacs on the table should get some
attention




Hugely influential and more hated by the music press
(back in the day) than even Killing Joke it took Tim having
several heart attacks and a massive stroke to get them any
form of acceptance



On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
wrote:


Ooh, toughie. Lots to choose from (and isn't
THAT a dick comment?)

I'm going to go with the Modern Lovers.
Arguably as influential as The Velvet Underground and the
Stooges, yet hardly as renowned, the original foursome made
only one set of demos (later "produced" by John
Cale and released as an album years later by California
indie label, Bezerkly), but those end results were as
seismic in shaping punk as anything by Iggy or Lou.




The original line-up featured Jerry Harrison on
keyboards (later to join Talking Heads) and Dave Robinson on
drums (later to join The Cars). At one point in the
proceedings, lead singer/strategist Jonathan Richman let his
eccentricities hold sway and decided that he no longer
wanted make music that would "offend the ears of
children." As such, he told Dave Robinson to quit the
drums and provide percussion by rolling up a newspaper and
slapping it on his knee, to which Dave replied, essentially,
"fuck that and fuck you, I'm out of here."
That incarnation of the band -- unsurprisingly -- fell
apart, and the blunt, proto-punky energy of the Modern
Lovers vanished, replaced by Richman's bizarre penchant
for childlike whimsy (a huge influence on later acts like
Beat Happening -- WHO FUCKING SUCK -- and Jack
White).




Richman's solo albums have their own merits,
but in terms of a criminally undersung, yet wholly
influential slab of vinyl by a band who should be a
household name --  to my mind -- one is hard pressed to
cite someone more significant than The Modern Lovers.




YOUR TURN!



On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:37 AM, bongo wrote:
kitchens of distinction





"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the
world has been postponed indefinitely..."


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
wrote:




Given that name-dropping Killing
Joke (esp ‘early’ Killing Joke) is the music-wanker
equivalent of a triple word score in Scrabble, the poll
question is as follows:

 
Which artist or band would you name-drop to get the highest
possible score at a music-wanker convention?
 

Criteria include but are not limited to: lack of attempt at
commercial success / downright self-sabotage, uniqueness,
humour, social commentary, mental illness, artistic pain,
substance dependency, early / mysterious / humorous death,
ability to use ancillary wank-terms such as ‘musique
concrete’, ‘the sound of the earth vomiting’ and so
forth.




 
I’m going with ‘What is Pere
Ubu?’
 


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