[kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

[Dirk Kingerske]

so jaz was there, was he?



> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:27:38 +0200

> From: frenchyfrenzy at killingjoke.fr

> To: gathering at misera.net

> CC: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

> 

> Thanks again  for these further details.

> I am quite sure these were the moments I've filmed in Geneva because i was the only one filming (as Rob Moss and his bunch of Bast**** from HeadCunt were too much occupied drinkink heavily in the same room during this memorable moment when they decided to reunite ha ha ha

> 

> The advertisement for the premiere was using the pic of the 3 laughing partners and Jaz said " you got it ! As i was waiting for a very very long time and  it was quite 1or 2 am and the funeral had begun around 5pm the afternoon before....

> 

> Stephane "Frenchy Frenzy" really looking forward to see the long version of 150 mins

> 

> Le 13 juin 2013 à 04:15, "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> a écrit :

> 

> > Re TB & Stephane's questions:

> > 

> > The doco is largely in chronological order, so it covers Raven joining the

> > band, tension starting to build during Night Time / Brighter with BPF saying

> > that it became more and more about egos esp after the success of the Night

> > Time album and LLB in particular, and you can see it in some of the footage

> > from the time as well. Then Outside the Gate - BPF refusing to listen to the

> > keyboards while he lays down the drums (obviously the drumming was naff as a

> > result)- at this stage I think he wasn't talking to Jaz at all. So the drums

> > were replaced entirely and BPF and Raven left the band. 

> > 

> > Then Big Paul and Raven leaving where Jaz said they wanted a new rhythm

> > section (ouch), the different periods where Raven and Youth are in or out,

> > Raven leaving to join Ministry (ouch), and it covers his death and

> > subsequent events in detail too. 

> > 

> > There is footage from Raven's funeral, and also interview footage of Big

> > Paul talking about what it was like for him during the period when he wasn't

> > in the band - I don't want to spoil the doco by providing too much

> > information, but obviously it was hard. He discusses what it was like

> > rejoining, there's footage of him and Jaz hugging warmly at the funeral etc.

> > I was quite surprised that they put the footage of the funeral in, wasn't

> > expecting it, it was a nice addition. Then there are some photos of Jaz's

> > journey in South India where he took Raven's ashes around various temples

> > and finally scattered them in a sacred river.

> > 

> > Stephane - I'm not sure if there was footage from the Geneva reunion sorry,

> > it wasn't mentioned specifically that anything was in Geneva, but it could

> > have been...? As I said it's a 2.5 hr long doco, with loads of footage, no

> > filler, and also I don't have the world's best memory. Although I have

> > noticed a strange correlation lately between how hammered I get at gigs and

> > how much I remember, and as I was almost totally sober last night I can

> > remember quite a lot of detail. It's one of those things that I think I

> > could watch many, many times, at least every year if not more, and I bet

> > most of you will feel the same. It's thoroughly entertaining, and as I keep

> > saying, the subject matter of the documentary, and the subject matter and

> > delivery of the music is serious and earnest enough that when one of the

> > band members, Mike Coles, Jaz's Mum, the band's management, various

> > journalists, Jimmy Page, Dave Grohl etc makes a funny quip, it's hilarious

> > and really servers to break the tension. I guess you could say that Shaun

> > has used tension and release quite masterfully, although he had a lot to

> > work with because of the great sense of humour in pretty much all of the

> > people he interviewed. Oh I should mention there's even footage of that

> > infamous night when Jaz and Dave Grohl got pissed in Auckland and tore shit

> > up, haha.

> > 

> > There's a bit of footage of Big Paul back with the band, it doesn't go into

> > a lot of detail about the touring and the albums he's been on since, but

> > there's a bit there. In fact Big Paul and Youth appear in the doco

> > extensively from beginning to end, which is a great addition. I think

> > Youth's interviews were shot in 2003, and Big Paul's obviously later - Big

> > Paul's comments are more current and poignant for it, and Shaun did mention

> > that when they started filming in 2003 obviously they had no idea how it

> > would end, and Raven's passing and BPF's rejoining and frankness in his

> > interviews added an emotional element to the film.

> > 

> > They all share a common sense of humour, there's even some funny Geordie

> > comments - e.g. re guitar playing -  "all the elements come together to make

> > something bigger than the sum of the parts - it's like cooking really" Very

> > deadpan delivery, another one of those moments when everyone in the cinema

> > laughs out loud, there were quite a lot of them. Oh and a great round of

> > applause at the end of the doco too.

> > 

> > Anyway I must stop talking about it because I don't want to spoil it for

> > everyone =)

> > 

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> > Behalf Of T.B.

> > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013 4:26 a.m.

> > To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

> > 

> > Brendan Quinn wrote:

> > 

> > (snip)

> > 

> > Bear in mind the premiere was a 150 minute version, which Shaun (the

> > director / filmer) said will be whittled down to more like 90 minutes. As a

> > fan I didn't find it dragged at all, I felt privileged to be viewing this

> > footage and it was both thoroughly entertaining, amusing, and touching at

> > times.

> > 

> > +++++++++++++++

> > 

> > Does it cover Raven's death, the reunion and subsequent albums and tours

> > leading up to at least the last year or so or does it pretty much only go up

> > to the mid 2000's where the bulk of footage and interviews took place?

> > 

> > T.B.

> > 

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