[kj] Sabbath Gathering Digest, Vol 121, Issue 23

[Marcel]

you probably have seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejmEPfHP9FYAm

Like it's been said before, a reunion without Bill Ward makes no sense. 
Nothing against Wilk, but I'm really shocked that they pay no tribute to 
Ward. Maybe they - including Rubin - are really deaf by now. Some songs 
may be ok, but without Ward... no balls.




113.06.2013 01:31, schrieb gathering-request at misera.net:

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>     1. Box set already damaged (lordhigh at gmail.com)

>     2. Re: Box set already damaged (T.B.)

>     3. Re: Box set already damaged (Rob Moss)

>     4. Re: The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up (bongo)

>     5. Re: new Black Sabbath albul (T.B.)

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> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:19:20 -0400

> From: lordhigh at gmail.com <lordhigh at gmail.com>

> Subject: [kj] Box set already damaged

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> Straight out of the post.

> 2 corners crushed and torn.

> And the signed plackard never got its limited number written on.

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> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:55:31 -0700

> From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Box set already damaged

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

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> lordhigh at gmail.com wrote:

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> Straight out of the post.

> 2 corners crushed and torn.

> And the signed plackard never got its limited number written on.

>

> +++++++++++++++

>

> Write ?#1? on it and sell it on eBay.

>

> T.B.

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> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:21:03 +0100

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Box set already damaged

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Cc: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Funny. I was discussing with colesy. He told me to keep it quiet.

> I said that would happen!

>

> I think the idea is that emails will be sent with a number.....

>

> As Killing joke once said.

>

>

> Ha!

>

> On 12 Jun 2013, at 19:55, "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:

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>> lordhigh at gmail.com wrote:

>>

>> Straight out of the post.

>> 2 corners crushed and torn.

>> And the signed plackard never got its limited number written on.

>>

>> +++++++++++++++

>>

>> Write ?#1? on it and sell it on eBay.

>>

>> T.B.

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> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:53:19 +1200

> From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up

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> great review!

>

> yep, shall see you this eve for sure!

>

> dont finish work til 5:30, so wont leave whangarei til 6ish... will txt ya

> we when get there!!!

>

>

>

> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> postponed indefinitely..."

>

>

> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>wrote:

>

>> I would love to see a 5 / 10 / 20 hour version of the documentary ?

>> obviously the longer it goes, the more you?re viewing raw footage. But I?m

>> pretty sure most gatherers would be more than happy to spend most of a day

>> or most of a weekend watching rare Killing Joke footage.****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> The 90 minute version will be more appropriate for casual viewers vs

>> hardcore fans ? however they did mention that a DVD will be forthcoming,

>> and I expect the full 150 min version (and hopefully even a bit more) will

>> be available on the DVD or perhaps a deluxe version of the DVD.****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> I shudder to think how much of his own money Shaun has had to fork out to

>> get this across the line.****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> I have to share one anecdote with you. The biggest crowd reaction that I

>> remember (laughter) came when a really interesting and strange Icelandic

>> guy recounts an incident that happened in Iceland ? it looks like some of

>> the stuff they got up to in Iceland was really intense. So this guy is, for

>> starters, dressed in a black and red hooded macickal robe with the hood

>> pulled up, when interviewed, and just exudes this awesome ?Killing Joke

>> changed my life in 1982 and I?m still buzzing? vibe. Mostly good weird, but

>> a fair bit of ?weird? weird into the bargain. So he talks about an incident

>> where his sister is ripping Jaz a new one for some personal reason, whilst

>> naked and situated up on a balcony. I can only assume that Jaz had made

>> some romantic transgression against her, but who knows. Anyway, she was

>> dripping wet from the rain, starkers, and in mid-rant she is struck by

>> lightning ? the first of TWO TIMES that she was hit by lightning in Jaz?s

>> presense. The way this guy describes events is at the same time hilarious

>> and weird - he mentions lightning playing around and down her naked,

>> smooth, wet body (way too much pervy detail from a brother?), her being

>> protected from the lightning by the water transmitting it down into the

>> ground (I?m not sure if physics actually works that way?), and Jaz then

>> immediately taking advantage of the situation by ?deifying her? or

>> somesuch, to this guy?s great approval, in front of everyone. Belly laughs

>> all around in the cinema, was one of many genuinely hilarious moments. So

>> wrong, but so funny.****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> The documentary conveyed that dualistic nature of Jaz, how he can convey a

>> belief / idea / behaviour to the hilt with total earnestness, and then

>> immediately mock it and himself and double over laughing at the idea of

>> taking it seriously. I?m sure he can or could be diabolically difficult at

>> times, but at the same time, when he gets going he?s thoroughly

>> entertaining and funny. One thing I expect it will do is raise his profile,

>> despite some of the more racy anecdotes. ****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> Oh there?s also mention of the gathering list mention of ?Killing Joke

>> Island? ? I think that was one of mine.****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> Anyway I must get some sleep to get ready for the gig tomorrow, and

>> possibly the following day (haven?t booked tickets so if I decide to go, it

>> will involve about 9 hours straight driving).****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> Johnny Bongo ? looking forward to seeing you =)****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> *On Behalf Of *Frenchy Frenzy

>> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:12 a.m.

>>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> *Cc:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] The Death & Resurrection Show Premier balls-up****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> I have sent 2 or 3 hard disk drive full of my footages (1To each approx)

>> since 10 years so I would say that Shaun is working on the project since

>> more than 10 years****

>>

>> Just one thing to people who thought i was keeping the footages just for

>> myself : they were wrong : I just wanted Shaun to be exclusive with them.*

>> ***

>>

>> As he couldn't use all of them, there will be material left for future

>> projects and i am very excited to discover like everybody what he used

>> among all these hours...****

>>

>> More than that, Rehearsals, gigs and making of the last video in 2013 were

>> not included.****

>>

>> Stephane "Frenchy Frenzy"

>>

>>

>> ****

>>

>> ** **

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>>

>> Le 12 juin 2013 ? 10:18, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> a ?crit :****

>>

>> I think it was something like 8 years, on and off, travelling all over the

>> globe,****

>>

>> plus the last 18 months/two years finishing off the editing.****

>>

>> Like I said, I'm just hoping that during this time he learnt the value of

>> abandoning all

>> hope and expectations when dealing with the band!****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> On 11 June 2013 18:53, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:****

>>

>> And how many years did Shaun spend on this project, exactly?****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> It's just disrespectful. ****

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> Alex in NYC****

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> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:31:59 -0700

> From: "T.B." <planetary at socal.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] new Black Sabbath albul

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> After giving the actual CD and the 4 bonus tracks some serious time, I feel

> a bit let down.  Of the four bonus tracks, I kind of like Methademic which

> has a Dio era sound to it.   "Live Forever" and Damaged Soul" are the only

> two tracks I really like.  Yeah, the lyrics on some of the songs are really,

> really awful.  There's a lot of a kind of generic "nu-metal" vibe on a lot

> of the tracks that I don't care for and the drumming and overall drum sound

> just blows (to be fair, I place a lot of blame on that on Rick Rubin - he

> makes most drummers sound like they're hitting tissue boxes).  It's funny

> the original 70's Ozzy era albums sound a lot better and have more

> personality, even the first few that were cheaply recorded in a few days'

> time.

>   

> BTW, my favorite Sabbath album remains the Born Again lp with Ian Gillan.

>   

> T.B.

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