[kj] VLR

andrew scott brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Apr 23 09:50:43 EDT 2013


As far as am aware no-one has yet mentioned the fact that KJ are the darlings of the press now in this current excellent editon of the above mag.  Well worth buying regularly, at last someone has woken up to the fact that all the best bands formd in the past.  The long past.  Perhaps I preferred it when they were more obscure, in the late nineties though & no-one talked about them.  Except myself. Waco & Bostonned the world is strange & sick.  Over & out.

 
The Fungus Moth.
 
Challenging the Future.


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  1. Current tour manager? (drunk wish)
  2. US tour setlist appears to be evolving: (Rheinhold Squeegee)
  3. Re: US tour setlist appears to be evolving: (GREG SLAWSON)
  4. New KJ cover: European Superstate (Rheinhold Squeegee)
  5. Re: New KJ cover: European Superstate (Dirk Kingerske)
  6. Re: US tour setlist appears to be evolving:
      (adrianwason at btinternet.com)
  7. Re: Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
      (adrianwason at btinternet.com)


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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:33:34 +0000
From: drunk wish <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Current tour manager?
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Anyone know who's managing the N. American tour? T.                        
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:48:16 -0500
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: [kj] US tour setlist appears to be evolving:
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Youtube video indicates that both "Follow the Leaders" and "Madness" have been added.

No official set list is posted but YT would indicate they played these songs, in no particular order:

Requiem
Turn To Red
Wardance
Love Like Blood
Follow the Leadaers
Madness
Asteroid
Chop Chop
Whiteout
80's
Corporate Elect
Pandemonium

Change
Death & Resurrection Show
Psyche

Is anyone able to confirm the Philly setlist?
                         
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:01:16 -0400
From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] US tour setlist appears to be evolving:
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Boston had ESS, Money, and Beautiful Dead but not the 2 songs from WTF.




From: kjlist at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:48:16 -0500
Subject: [kj] US tour setlist appears to be evolving:




Youtube video indicates that both "Follow the Leaders" and "Madness" have been added.

No official set list is posted but YT would indicate they played these songs, in no particular order:

Requiem
Turn To Red
Wardance
Love Like Blood
Follow the Leadaers
Madness
Asteroid
Chop Chop
Whiteout
80's
Corporate Elect
Pandemonium

Change
Death & Resurrection Show
Psyche

Is anyone able to confirm the Philly setlist?


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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:22:58 -0500
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: [kj] New KJ cover: European Superstate
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Heaven Shall Burn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W51Lh0gcMs0
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and here's an odd one. The St. Paul School of Rock is a program for middle and high school-aged students in Minneapolis / St. Paul. Their "Industrial Metal" performance night back in 2012 included Ministry's "Stigmata" as well as "Money is Not Our God."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4qb5ZS9aA

If you've ever wanted to see KJ performed by 15-year-olds, now is your chance.

                         
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:46:18 +0200
From: Dirk Kingerske <kingsnake at hotmail.de>
Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ cover: European Superstate
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oh zeus.b.held... holding on to the european saddle knob

dirt

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:22:58 -0500
Subject: [kj] New KJ cover: European Superstate




Heaven Shall Burn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W51Lh0gcMs0

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and here's an odd one. The St. Paul School of Rock is a program for middle and high school-aged students in Minneapolis / St. Paul. Their "Industrial Metal" performance night back in 2012 included Ministry's "Stigmata" as well as "Money is Not Our God."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4qb5ZS9aA



If you've ever wanted to see KJ performed by 15-year-olds, now is your chance.




                       

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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:15:28 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Re: [kj] US tour setlist appears to be evolving:
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devolving

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From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: [kj] US tour setlist appears to be evolving:
To: "Gathering Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 22 April, 2013, 15:48






Youtube video indicates that both "Follow the Leaders" and "Madness" have been added.
?
No official set list is posted but YT would indicate they played these songs, in no particular order:
?
Requiem
Turn To Red
Wardance
Love Like Blood
Follow the Leadaers
Madness
Asteroid
Chop Chop
Whiteout
80's
Corporate Elect
Pandemonium
?
Change
Death & Resurrection Show
Psyche
?
Is anyone able to confirm the Philly setlist?
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:19:24 +0100 (BST)
From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>,    "A list about all things Killing Joke
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vids-yes
tour-no
?
wait for next one
?
i saw them the night after i saw senser
?
Senser were intense/sounded amazing/self depracating
?
Killing Joke were lethargic/sounded dodgy/complacent
?
The guest vocalist(in Senser)?Imma is amazing
?
I love IMMAXXX


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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 22 April, 2013, 3:39





2 bands. I agree.?




Are the KJ live vids of the 2013 dates at all representative of the actual live performances?? Cuz I saw like 12 or so and they're not doing the "brand" (or the band) any good. Someone please confirm/disconfirm whether this tour is worth seeing, or should I wait** for the proverbial "next" album "our greatest one yet" which no doubt is due out "next year."


Though I like lots Jaz's plain-face long-hair jeans/tshirt-look (cuz it reminds all fuzzy-like of the 90s grunge which me luvs) they're looking and sounding, um, not quite up to the notch on the wall I'v always had of them.?


So,?Jaz, baybee: muffin'top and sagging relaxed-fit jeans ain't a good idea on second thought. Stop it. Being accompanied by Captain Yacht-Rock himself Christopher Cross and a heavily sedated Johann the diesel engineer from aboard Das Boot on guitars, well that leaves only Big Paul making any real sense/"viel Spass" or "mach' Show"(beatles..Hamburg..ahfuggetaboutit).?


Even then, I so wanna see Big Paul pound the shit out of the drums with some Revelations stuff for once before I die.?



To wit:?http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=W_P5UTD0xWo#t=128s




**Should I stay or should I go? This indecision's bugging me..



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Blessed are the Cracked for?
? they?let?in the Light,
? ? others all are just a..
? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall






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To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig








was it Jaz who said that the most striking thing about a killing joke gig was the reaction of the crowd to their music-or words to that effect...
in the mosh pit this has got more muted every year and at its worst at the Forum gig.
taking Rob's point if I had written songs like darkness before dawn/struggle/nightime/solitude/termite mound/for the love of the masses/judas goat/universe b/fresh fever/depth charge/colony collapse/poleshift etc -i would want to play these every night, but to my knowledge they've never even played 4 of these songs live.
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To me now Killing Joke have become 2 bands-the studio band peerless writing songs like colony collapse/poleshift in their 33rd??year and after the singles tour?the live band which needs a nudge.
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I thought the gig I saw on the 2012 tour in Bristol was really good, some of the gigs on the Absolute Dissent tour were good such as the Fleece and Rock City but you have to go back to 2005 in my opinion to say that they were really on it with Raven and Benny.
?
I'd like to see Jah Wobble play gigs with Killing Joke. The only time I've seen him it blew my mind at the Astoria 2 playing for the Damage Manual.Ok he did spend most of the gig sitting on a sofa with his back to the audience but he added an extra dimension which made up for that Scottish Wanker
?
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?

--- On Wed, 10/4/13, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 18:52



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I get the feeling "Asteroid" would be a lot of fun to play ... but i think it could stand to be retired for a little while (just my opinion, mind you).


Alex in NYC



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Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang! (Kerrcrap!) Review of KJ Forum gig



On 10 Apr 2013, at 16:21, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

"This World Hell" is a bad song. There, i said it.



Couldn't agree more, shame as?there's that really great bit in it.
I wonder if they just like playing it. I can imagine it being fun to play.
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