[kj] Rennes Le Chateau and the Mystery of the Holy Grail

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Sun Oct 14 01:54:13 EDT 2012


I guarantee you that none of us could complete the destruction of the book.



Don’t be daft



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
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beautiful post Paul, thanks! --atheist Greg

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On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:11 PM, "Paul Wady" <paulwady at hotmail.com> wrote:

If you want to see just how free you are of Judao/Christian conditioning, try taking a bible and ripping the pages out and burning them, one by one.



Even the statement feels..a bit sick? Precisely.



Like Bill Hicks said. You think you are free? Try living without money? I guarantee you that none of us could complete the destruction of the book.



What does that say if we all know full well it's just a big story, a pack of lies, and social control? A middle -eastern cult?





Ready for Christian Gatherers to forgive me!!!



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From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:22:01 +1300
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"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..."



On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Darren Peace <darrenpeace at gmail.com> wrote:

The Bible.







the greatest story ever told !









Darren

Hungerford, UK



On 12 Oct 2012, at 07:05, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

It certainly is a hoax, but I challenge anyone to find a more entertaining or elaborate one.



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of powens
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I've been to Rennes Le Chateau and bought the David Wood book in the book shop there. Even if it all is a hoax, it's an intriguing place.

On 11 October 2012 09:42, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

The Prieuré de Sion, translated from French <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language> as Priory of Sion, is a name given to multiple groups, both real and fictitious. The most controversial is a fringe fraternal organisation <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_organisation> , founded and dissolved in France <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France> in 1956 by Pierre Plantard <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Plantard> . In the 1960s, Plantard created a fictitious history for that organisation, describing it as a secret society <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_society> founded by Godfrey of Bouillon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_of_Bouillon> on Mount Zion <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Zion> in the Kingdom of Jerusalem <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem> in 1099, conflating it with a genuine historical monastic order, the Abbey of Our Lady of Mount Zion <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_Our_Lady_of_Mount_Zion> . In Plantard's version, the priory is devoted to installing a secret bloodline <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodline> of the Merovingian dynasty <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty> on the thrones of France and the rest of Europe <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe> .[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-1> This myth <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology> was expanded upon and popularised by the 1982 pseudohistorical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory> book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail> [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-Baigent.2C_Leigh_.26_Lincoln_1982-0> and later claimed as factual in the preface of the 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code> .[3] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-DVC-2>
After becoming a cause célèbre <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_c%C3%A9l%C3%A8bre> from the late 1960s to the 1980s, the mythical Priory of Sion was exposed as a ludibrium <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludibrium> created by Plantard as a framework for his claim of being the Great Monarch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Catholic_Monarch> prophesied by Nostradamus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus> .[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-3> Evidence presented in support of its historical existence and activities before 1956 was discovered to have been forged and then planted in various locations around France by Plantard and his accomplices. Nevertheless, many conspiracy theorists <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theorist> still persist in believing <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome> that the Priory of Sion is an age-old cabal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal> that conceals a subversive <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion> secret.[5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-Putnam-4>
The Priory of Sion myth has been exhaustively debunked <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunker> by journalists and scholars as one of the great hoaxes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoax> of the 20th century.[6] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-CBS-5> Some skeptics <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptic> have expressed concern that the proliferation and popularity of books, websites and films inspired by this hoax have contributed to the problem of conspiracy theories <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories> , pseudohistory <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory> and other confusions becoming more mainstream <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream> .[7] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-Thompson_13.2F01.2F2008-6> Others are troubled by the romantic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism> reactionary <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary> ideology unwittingly promoted in these works.[8] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion#cite_note-Klinghoffer_2006-7>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion







From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Were Wolf
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I remember in Melody Maker in 1986 (Jaz Coleman's Top Ten Heroes), Jaz talked about David Wood and his book Genesis, which was the first book in English to deal with "the markings and mythologies associated with an area in France called Rennes Le Chateau...Three of the band are completely obsessed by it".



The mystery of Jesus Christ's bloodline was also researched in the books Holy Blood and Holy Grail by Henry Lincoln, Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, and Bloodline of the Holy Grail by the late Laurence Gardner (Jaz's opera on Christ's marriage to Mary Magdelene was featured on Gardner's old website).



Rat Scabies of the gothic punk band The Damned has led recent tours of Rennes Le Chateau under the auspices of the Sauniere Society. Has anyone on this list been there?



http://www.sauniere-society.org



http://www.therennesgroup.com


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