[kj] OT: The origins of goth?

[Per G Olsson]

	...the Wikipedia List of Gothic bands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gothic_rock_bands) includes Killing Joke - Everyone happy with that? 
	:-p

22 nov 2012 kl. 14.30 skrev Per G Olsson:


> 	OK...

> 	And following on to that:

> 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

> 	(WHAT? The Doors?!?!)

> 

> 	But nothing between 1967 (counting The Doors) / 1968 (Glass House Family) and Joy Division?

> 

> 

> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.19 skrev wessidetempest .:

> 

>> Just to get everyone riled up

>> 

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture

>> 

>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:17 AM, "Per G Olsson" <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

>> 

>>> 	Yep, I know that the term is extremely widely used.

>>> 	Sticking my neck out as little as possible I'd say that Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus fully fits my expectations of "goth".

>>> 	Also early Specimen, a bit of Joy Division, early Clan of Xymox etc etc...

>>> 	

>>> 

>>> 22 nov 2012 kl. 14.07 skrev wessidetempest .:

>>> 

>>>> I guess it depends on what you consider goth. For example there are metal bands that are considered. And from my opinion it's only because they dress the part. 

>>>> 

>>>> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:02 AM, "Per G Olsson" <Per.G.Olsson at Miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>> 	As the list pretty quiet at the moment (strange considering that Jaz & Youth apparently are releasing stuff and and a KJ single is supposedly due soon) I'd thought I ask a "simple" question...

>>>>> 

>>>>> 	Anyone out there who has a good idea on tracking the roots of "goth"?

>>>>> 

>>>>> 	As with the term "punk" there are many different views on what bands to include, but I hope that among KJ fans there are quite a few that also listens to a lot of "goth".

>>>>> 

>>>>> 	The reason I ask is that I stumbled on this track by The Glass Family from 1968 (http://youtu.be/q_pIiQUIZoA), which in my ears sounds quite "gothic".

>>>>> 	The rest of what The Glass Family released has very little resemblance to "goth" (in my humble ears) so it seems to be a one off.

>>>>> 	Never heard any other 60:s track that sounds so "gothic", but please feel free to enlighten me if there are others!

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 	/Per

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 	(Cue "It started in the UX" "No, it began in the UY", where X and Y equals K or S depending on who starts)

>>>>> 

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