[kj] MMXII first listen

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 28 07:54:29 EDT 2012



With all due respect to the faithful departed (and I'm not sure how
much input Raven had in the later Ministry albums), Ministry stopped
making listenable albums circa FILTH PIG (and that's being charitable).

Alex in NYC


On Mar 28, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Simon Abinett wrote:


> I am still holding out for the cd to arrive before listening in full

> but i have heard the majority of each track and really like !

> The new Ministry cd arrived in my hands yesterday - what a load of

> shit that is , after listening to that you realise just how

> brilliant the new Joke material truly is .

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> From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:58:25 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

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> I think it's fair to say that MMXII is not as good as Absolute

> Dissent.

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> From: gregslawson at msn.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:43:20 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

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> You're right about similarites of some new songs to older ones (like

> the Glitch part taken from Intravenous/Majestic) but you'll see w/

> many bands that have been around for a while that they repeat

> themselves. Even amazing songwriters like the guys from Husker Du

> (check 'em out if you weren't around the US underground scene in the

> mid 80s) or the Minutemen were repeating themselves on their last

> couple of albums.

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> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:09:17 +0200

> From: spooman at freenet.de

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] MMXII first listen

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> Thanks for the links and the nice way of pointing out that there

> might be one. "Anyone feeling ambitious can check Bunalti,

> Torrentzap, Bitsnoop etc. and let us know what they find." hehehe.

> Not to worry, although I haven't preordered it yet, I'll buy the

> Single(s), Vinyl and CD - and shall do so quite happily. I like the

> gloomy EDVREish atmosphere of "Pole Shift", "Fema Camp" and

> "Corporate Elect". "Trance" is the only one, that hasn't had any

> effect on me so far and "Colony Collapse" and Glitch would be other

> favs.

> I'm very fond of the different atmos The Joke create on every single

> album - I think they really rock in a dark way on MMXII - but I'll

> have to admit that I'm a bit dissapointed by a certain sloppiness

> songwriting-wise. That one part of "Glitch" is very similar to

> "Majestic" AND "Intravenous", isn't it? And "Corporate Elect" isn't

> really something entirely different from "MINOG". I like them

> nevertheless...

> Isn't it funny, how of all bands the Joke seem to have no

> difficulty in writing erm touching songs on a regular basis, that

> once would have been filed under the gruesome term "ballad"? :-)

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> Marcel

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