[kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Jul 27 08:58:00 EDT 2012
Precisely. I quite like pretty EVERYthing (yes, that includes WITH
SYMPATHY) the band did prior to FILTH PIG -- each album seemed like an
evolution from the last. But around FILTH PIG (and beyond) they seemed
entirely stuck in a rut and kept writing the same album. That works
for some bands (AC/DC, The Ramones, Motorhead, etc.), but not Ministry.
Alex in NYC
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Jim Harper wrote:
> Filth Pig was the first just-plain-mediocre album from Ministry. I'd
> be hard pressed to find half a dozen songs from the post-Psalm 69
> albums that I'd happily listen to. Given that they've released 6- or
> is it 7?- albums since then, that's an astonishing drop in quality.
>
> Jim.
>
> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> To: adrianwason at btinternet.com; A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012, 13:15
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>
>
> With due respect to Raven and Tommy, Ministry ran out of ideas circa
> FILTH PIG.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 3:51 AM, adrianwason at btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> i think ministry best era was with Raven and Tommy Victor
>>
>> From: Dominico C <dominicoc at hotmail.com>
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012, 5:11
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
>>
>> I'd only pay to go see Ministry and Killing Joke, if Paul Barker,
>> Bill
>> Reiflin, and Martin Atkins returned. And they played 87-92 era
>> stuff...
>>
>>
>> and Killing Joke? now that could work"
>>
>>
>>
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>> 1. Re: Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour (Dominico C)
>> 2. OT: Am I spamming the list? (nicholas fitzpatrick)
>> 3. Re: OT: Am I spamming the list? (Jim Harper)
>> 4. Re: Hussey's statement on "Louder Than War" (Alexander Smith)
>> 5. Re: Hussey's statement on "Louder Than War" (Jim Harper)
>> 6. From the official KJ Facebook page.... (Alexander Smith)
>> 7. Re: Killing Joke live @ Metropolis Studios 8 September
>> (andrew scott)
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>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:41:42 -0700
>> From: "Dominico C" <dominicoc at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
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>> Hell Yeah! -- Damage Manual - Murder, Inc. - Killing Joke
>>
>>
>>
>> This tour for those who can't get enough of Geordie's awesomeness:
>>
>> Damage Manual - Murder, Inc. - Killing Joke
>>
>> WITH The Cult, and The Mission, between sets 8)
>>
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>> 1. Re: Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour (sade1)
>> 2. Re: Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour (sade1)
>> 3. Re: Metal- OT Dream Theater (Brendan Quinn)
>> 4. Re: Metal (Brendan Quinn)
>> 5. Re: Metal- OT Dream Theater (Adam Helfer)
>> 6. Re: Metal- OT Dream Theater (Adam Helfer)
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>> This tour for those who can't get enough of Geordie's awesomeness:
>>
>> Damage Manual - Murder, Inc. - Killing Joke
>>
>> WITH The Cult, and The Mission, between sets 8)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Chris Williamson <laughingchris at hotmail.com>
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>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
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>>
>>
>> And for what it's worth, didn't buy any tickets and had no
>> intention of
>> going to any of the gigs until they dowsized venues and only then I
>> considered London.? I was happy they'd be on first because I'd have
>> left
>> straight after!
>> ?
>> Ministry and Killing Joke? now that could work
>> ?
>> LaughingChris
>> ?
>>
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:44:52 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
>>
>>
>> Hadn't heard that interview before.? Thanks for sharing that. Liked
>> it.
>> ?
>> Laughingchris
>> ?
>>
>> > From: planetary at socal.rr.com
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:04:09 -0700
>> > Subject: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
>> >
>> > Anyone who listened to this interview (go to 15 minute mark where
>> Jaz
>> > talks about the tour) could see the writing on the wall back
>> > when it was first announced:
>> >
>> > http://13thfloor.co.nz/2012/04/01/interview-jaz-coleman-of-killing-joke/
>> >
>> > T.B.
>> >
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>> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Originally Outvoted To Do Cult tour
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>> Saw them in '96ish at the Hollywood Palladium. Liked.?
>> ?
>> Blessed are the Cracked for?
>> ? they?let?in the Light,
>> ? ? others all are just a..
>> ? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall
>>
>>
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>>
>> wessidetempest wrote:
>>
>> No it couldn't. Ministry suck. No matter who's in the band. They
>> should've
>> stayed "retired"
>>
>> ++++++++++++++
>>
>> I like(d) Ministry but the last couple tours before Al Jourgensen
>> "retired"
>> were pretty mediocre and from what I heard about some of the shows
>> they've
>> played on the current tour, they (as mostly Al) were pretty
>> terrible.? But
>> they were pretty awesome back in 1990 and even during the following
>> Psalm 69
>> tour.
>>
>> T.B.
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:41:19 +1200
>> From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal- OT Dream Theater
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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>> How about posting a DT link? =)
>>
>> Musically this is one of their better ones, overdriven guitar, good
>> riff,
>> eastern twiddly bits etc. That Pepper needs to stop whining about
>> ennui and
>> sexual frustration in his songs though...what do you expect when
>> you wear a
>> mullet for 3 decades you nonce?
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNE2-K8fDDw
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of TB
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012 11:22 a.m.
>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal- OT Dream Theater
>>
>> Adam Helfer wrote:
>>
>> > what do we think of Dream Theater?
>> > I was at a show a block away the night they were in DC (last
>> weekend),
>> > heard they were playing and I was able to get passes-- I liked it-
>> > they translate over well live.
>> > I'd prob go see them again
>> > I always thought they were ok, but never game them too much of a
>> > listen- all the long songs and so many of them, I never knew
>> where to
>> really start...
>>
>> LOL, I thought I was nuts bringing up U2 and Van Halen here....
>>
>> Man, you got balls of steel.
>>
>> T.B.
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:49:25 +1200
>> From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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>> Yes, it?s awfully loud isn?t it? This might be more your cup of tea
>> (kicks
>> off at 1:00)
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8beYR1iBQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of sade1
>> Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2012 11:08 a.m.
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's what I keep thinking metal sounds (& should sound) like.
>>
>> (gratuitous YT clips follow):
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yHJBDeshPA#t=2m37s
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUDWLp1yIWw#t=0m37s
>>
>>
>>
>> BUT I might be wrong. I'm not well-versed in all the different
>> genres,
>> subgenres of metal
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal
>>
>>
>>
>> Weird, KJ get hassled for being ?chugga chugga metal by numbers?
>> e.g. on
>> 2003, then some claim they?re ?not metal?
>>
>>
>>
>> THIS is metal:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9eyDT5-tEo
>>
>>
>>
>> Bo would have laughed and called it Hard Rock? between mouthfuls of
>> cheese
>> and beer =)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ] On
>> Behalf Of Alex Smith
>> Sent: Friday, 20 July 2012 10:48 a.m.
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); A list about
>> all
>> things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To say there' s no "metal" in Killing Joke is, sorry, an oversight.
>> For a
>> start, the band would entirely cop to being influenced by it.
>> Droves of
>> metal bands have cited them as an influence. Seriously -- you can't
>> hear the
>> metal heaviosity in, "Pandemonium" or "The Wait"?
>>
>> Obviously, the Joke are not SIMPLY a metal band, but they're not
>> SIMPLY a
>> punk band or SIMPLY a post-punk band (cue debate over that
>> definition) or
>> SIMPLY an industrial band (although, personally speaking, I've never
>> understood how they got lumped in with industrial). They defy
>> categorization, and proudly so.
>>
>> Killing Joke -- unpigeonholeable, just how it should be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard"
>> Sent: Jul 19, 2012 6:08 PM
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal
>>
>> There's a lot of KJ that has metal overtones, and there's nothing
>> wrong
>> with that. "The Wait," "SO36," the music in "Tabazan." I always
>> liked that
>> Killing Joke would incorporate some aspects of this in their sound,
>> and try
>> to bend influences from that genre, to their will, as it were.
>>
>> -0liver
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:47 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > kj never ever metal
>> > more textured sound would benefit btats and
>> otg....................MORE
>> > GEORDIE
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:53:11 -0400
>> From: Adam Helfer <Devacor at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal- OT Dream Theater
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>> Lol- was kind of simultaneously fascinated and repulsed at the same
>> time ,
>> on top of pretty humored by the air guitaring geeks in the crowd...
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Adam Helfer wrote:
>> >
>> >> what do we think of Dream Theater?
>> >> I was at a show a block away the night they were in DC (last
>> weekend),
>> >> heard they were playing
>> >> and I was able to get passes--
>> >> I liked it- they translate over well live.
>> >> I'd prob go see them again
>> >> I always thought they were ok, but never game them too much of a
>> listen-
>> >> all the long songs and so
>> >> many of them, I never knew where to really start...
>> >
>> > LOL, I thought I was nuts bringing up U2 and Van Halen here....
>> >
>> > Man, you got balls of steel.
>> >
>> > T.B.
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:24:44 -0400
>> From: Adam Helfer <Devacor at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Metal- OT Dream Theater
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Message-ID: <0940374B-EE03-439B-997B-9139FCBFA02F at aol.com>
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>> Something was f'ed in the stars for me that week , I'm serious--
>> my gf was
>> trying to get me to take her poison , def leppard,and lita ford- I
>> put in
>> for press passes and thankfully didn't hear back - had another
>> friend who
>> wanted me to get passes for Scorpions 2 days later and I conveniently
>> forgot -- and then somehow I wound up at dream theater 2 days after
>> totally
>> random..
>> It's like I had to burn some odd karma off one way or another
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Adam Helfer <Devacor at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Lol- was kind of simultaneously fascinated and repulsed at the
>> same time ,
>> > on top of pretty humored by the air guitaring geeks in the crowd...
>> >
>> > M
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Adam Helfer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> what do we think of Dream Theater?
>> >>> I was at a show a block away the night they were in DC (last
>> weekend),
>> >>> heard they were playing
>> >>> and I was able to get passes--
>> >>> I liked it- they translate over well live.
>> >>> I'd prob go see them again
>> >>> I always thought they were ok, but never game them too much of
>> a listen-
>> >>> all the long songs and so
>> >>> many of them, I never knew where to really start...
>> >>
>> >> LOL, I thought I was nuts bringing up U2 and Van Halen here....
>> >>
>> >> Man, you got balls of steel.
>> >>
>> >> T.B.
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:27:46 +0000
>> From: nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [kj] OT: Am I spamming the list?
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>> Two mails purportedly from me have appeared on the list this week
>> with no
>> subject and no text, just a link to another site (which I haven't
>> tried and
>> know nothing about).
>>
>> One of the mails is several mails below this one.
>>
>> Can anyone else see them or is it just me? Am I responsible for the
>> list
>> going down earlier this week?
>>
>> Help!
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:30:51 +0100 (BST)
>> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Am I spamming the list?
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>> It's been happening regularly on the list. Need to check your
>> security etc.
>>
>> ?
>> ?
>>
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>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 12:27
>> Subject: [kj] OT: Am I spamming the list?
>>
>>
>> Two mails purportedly from me have appeared on the list this week
>> with no
>> subject and no text, just a link to another site (which I haven't
>> tried and
>> know nothing about).
>>
>> One of the mails is several mails below this one.
>>
>> Can anyone else see them or is it just me? Am I responsible for the
>> list
>> going down earlier this week?
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> thanks.
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:37:35 -0400
>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Hussey's statement on "Louder Than War"
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>>
>> Once again, say what you will about the Mission's music or Wayne's
>> lyrics, but that was indeed a classy response to a childish
>> situation,
>> in my opinion, at least.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:11 AM, <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:
>>
>> > http://louderthanwar.com/killing-joke-pull-cultmission-tour/
>> >
>> > I?m sure some of you have already seen this. He is being very
>> > reasonable I think ? under the circumstances?
>> >
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:44:37 +0100 (BST)
>> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Hussey's statement on "Louder Than War"
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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>> According to facebook, we will shortly be seeing Killing Joke's
>> official
>> response to the 'crisis'.
>>
>>
>> Jim.
>> ?
>>
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>> >
>> Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 12:37
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Hussey's statement on "Louder Than War"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Once again, say what you will about the Mission's music or Wayne's
>> lyrics,
>> but that was indeed a classy response to a childish situation, in my
>> opinion, at least.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:11 AM, <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://louderthanwar.com/killing-joke-pull-cultmission-tour/
>> >
>> >I?m sure some of you have already seen this. He is being very
>> reasonable I
>> >think ? under the circumstances?
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:02:10 -0400
>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [kj] From the official KJ Facebook page....
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
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>>
>>
>> It says here....
>>
>> "We'll make an official announcement clearing up any questions around
>> the Cult tour very soon. Apologies for messing you guys around - you
>> know that's never our intention, and we appreciate the support you
>> have all shown us over the years. Regards."
>>
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:39:42 +0100 (BST)
>> From: andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke live @ Metropolis Studios 8 September
>> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
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>> Someone advised me that capacity of Metropolis is not that great so
>> maybe
>> not that many of u would get tkts anyway unless there is street
>> capacity as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> The Fungus Moth.
>> ?
>> Challenging the Future.
>>
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>> ? 1. Re: KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> ? ? ? (adrianwason at btinternet.com)
>> ? 2. Re: KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> ? ? ? (Bob Barathy)
>> ? 3. Re: KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> ? ? ? (Bob Barathy)
>> ? 4. Re: KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> ? ? ? (adrianwason at btinternet.com)
>> ? 5. There is No Value You Can Put On .........................
>> ? ? ? (adrianwason at btinternet.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:03:29 +0100 (BST)
>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
>> ??? <gathering at misera.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>> like that!!
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rich Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 18:48
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>>
>>
>> About 5 should do it, assuming Reza's going
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, adrianwason at btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the capacity of that place?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:23 PM BST Rob Moss wrote:
>> >
>> >>Ye
>> >?without your $300 I'm sure.
>> >>
>> >>On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:08, DAIMON SPARKS <soundmagick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> omfg this is thee funniest+mostest BRILL move yet!!!ildE
>> >>>
>> >>> SCREW THA DUMB pozerz outta their plastic+use it to build BOMB
>> SHELTERS
>> >>> ON CYTHERA!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> HIP HIP HOORAY
>> >>>
>> >>> +++eye shall b able to view a proper DVD in the comfort+privacy
>> uv my
>> >>> own secure studio
>> >>>
>> >>> SO FUK U ALL ALL WHINY NONYOUTHFULL NONBELIEVER ZOMBI BIZEE
>> BEEZ UV
>> >>> MMXII
>> >>>
>> >>> U GOT NO INERTIA FOR KJ??? WUT DA fUk
>> >>>
>> >>> LOSERS
>> >>>
>> >>> ye shall perish
>> >>>
>> >>> killing joke will live forever
>> >>>
>> >>> BLOODY MALICIOUSLY!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 25, 2012 10:56 AM, "fatpotanga" <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Now we all know why Jaz *coughs* so much at the beginning of
>> MINOG ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:39, Paula Cook wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Over ?200 to see KJ?! They have just GOT to be joki...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.fatpotanga.com/
>> >>> http://www.iamscuzzy.com/
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:17:19 +0100
>> From: "Bob Barathy" <bbarathy at btinternet.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> To: <adrianwason at btinternet.com>,??? "A list about all things Killing
>> ??? Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Message-ID: <FOEJKEDNJGCPNDCAIOIJKEIDDEAA.bbarathy at btinternet.com>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:17:18 +0100
>> From: "Bob Barathy" <bbarathy at btinternet.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> To: <adrianwason at btinternet.com>,??? "A list about all things Killing
>> ??? Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Message-ID: <FOEJKEDNJGCPNDCAIOIJIEIDDEAA.bbarathy at btinternet.com>
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>>
>> postcode please ;-)
>>
>> ? -----Original Message-----
>> ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ]On
>> Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> ? Sent: 25 July 2012 20:07
>> ? To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> ? Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8,
>> 2012
>>
>>
>> ? you are welcome to stay at my place*****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ****I'll put a tent up for you down the garden where the nasty
>> goblins are
>>
>>
>> ? From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
>> ? To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> ? Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 18:52
>> ? Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8,
>> 2012
>>
>>
>> ? Not this one.? The price is ridiculous.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? -----Original Message-----
>> ? From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ]
>> On
>> ? Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> ? Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:59 AM
>> ? To: gathering at misera.net
>> ? Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8,
>> 2012
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ? Are any gatherers going?
>> ? Is the whole thing a wind up?
>> ? Do the band realise the price of hiring extras?
>>
>> ? Answers
>> ? Don't know
>> ? Probably
>> ? Bout 200 a day?
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ------------------------------
>> ? On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:23 PM BST Rob Moss wrote:
>>
>> ? >Yes.
>> ? >
>> ? >And without your $300 I'm sure.
>> ? >
>> ? >On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:08, DAIMON SPARKS <soundmagick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> ? >
>> ? >> omfg this is thee funniest+mostest BRILL move yet!!!ildE
>> ? >>
>> ? >> SCREW THA DUMB pozerz outta their plastic+use it to build BOMB
>> SHELTERS
>> ? ON CYTHERA!!!
>> ? >>
>> ? >> HIP HIP HOORAY
>> ? >>
>> ? >> +++eye shall b able to view a proper DVD in the comfort
>> +privacy uv my
>> own
>> ? secure studio
>> ? >>
>> ? >> SO FUK U ALL ALL WHINY NONYOUTHFULL NONBELIEVER ZOMBI BIZEE
>> BEEZ UV
>> MMXII
>> ? >>
>> ? >> U GOT NO INERTIA FOR KJ??? WUT DA fUk
>> ? >>
>> ? >> LOSERS
>> ? >>
>> ? >> ye shall perish
>> ? >>
>> ? >> killing joke will live forever
>> ? >>
>> ? >> BLOODY MALICIOUSLY!!!
>> ? >>
>> ? >> On Jul 25, 2012 10:56 AM, "fatpotanga" <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> ? >>
>> ? >> Now we all know why Jaz *coughs* so much at the beginning of
>> MINOG ;)
>> ? >>
>> ? >>
>> ? >> On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:39, Paula Cook wrote:
>> ? >>
>> ? >> > Over ?200 to see KJ?! They have just GOT to be joki...
>> ? >>
>> ? >>
>> ? >>
>> ? >>
>> ? >> --
>> ? >> http://www.fatpotanga.com/
>> ? >> http://www.iamscuzzy.com/
>> ? >>
>> ? >>
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>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:28:16 +0100 (BST)
>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> To: Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com>
>> Cc: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(theband!\)"
>> ??? <gathering at misera.net>
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>> i haven't got a postcode for my tent you? mischievous cunt Bob
>>
>> .
>> but if it comes to it you will be bothered by cockerills cows
>> chickens
>> fuckin dogs cats fighting
>> ?
>> thats why i like going to a killing joke gig Peace................
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com>
>> To: adrianwason at btinternet.com; A list about all things Killing
>> Joke (the
>> band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 20:17
>> Subject: RE: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>>
>>
>> postcode please ;-)
>> ?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ]On
>> >Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> >Sent: 25 July 2012 20:07
>> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> >
>> >
>> >you are welcome to stay at my place*****
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >****I'll put a tent up for you down the garden where the nasty
>> goblins are
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >________________________________
>> >From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
>> >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 18:52
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> >
>> >Not this one.? The price is ridiculous.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> ] On
>> >Behalf Of adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:59 AM
>> >To: gathering at misera.net
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Are any gatherers going?
>> >Is the whole thing a wind up?
>> >Do the band realise the price of hiring extras?
>> >
>> >Answers
>> >Don't know
>> >Probably
>> >Bout 200 a day?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:23 PM BST Rob Moss wrote:
>> >
>> >>Yes.
>> >>
>> >>And without your $300 I'm sure.
>> >>
>> >>On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:08, DAIMON SPARKS <soundmagick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> omfg this is thee funniest+mostest BRILL move yet!!!ildE
>> >>>
>> >>> SCREW THA DUMB pozerz outta their plastic+use it to build BOMB
>> SHELTERS
>> >ON CYTHERA!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> HIP HIP HOORAY
>> >>>
>> >>> +++eye shall b able to view a proper DVD in the comfort+privacy
>> uv my
>> >>> own
>> >secure studio
>> >>>
>> >>> SO FUK U ALL ALL WHINY NONYOUTHFULL NONBELIEVER ZOMBI BIZEE
>> BEEZ UV
>> >>> MMXII
>> >>>
>> >>> U GOT NO INERTIA FOR KJ??? WUT DA fUk
>> >>>
>> >>> LOSERS
>> >>>
>> >>> ye shall perish
>> >>>
>> >>> killing joke will live forever
>> >>>
>> >>> BLOODY MALICIOUSLY!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 25, 2012 10:56 AM, "fatpotanga" <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Now we all know why Jaz *coughs* so much at the beginning of
>> MINOG ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:39, Paula Cook wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Over ?200 to see KJ?! They have just GOT to be joki...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.fatpotanga.com/
>> >>> http://www.iamscuzzy.com/
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:29:34 +0100 (BST)
>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> Subject: [kj] There is No Value You Can Put On
>> ??? .........................
>> To: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>,???
>> "A list
>> ??? about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net
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>> as we are all talking about money which is uncomfortable for this
>> list...
>> what value would anyone put on seeing killing joke at their peak in
>> 1991 at
>> that Janury time?
>> to me that is priceless..,it was so good it was beyond any monetary
>> value
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 20:03
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>>
>>
>> like that!!
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rich Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012, 18:48
>> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ live @ Metropolis Studios Saturday Sept 8, 2012
>>
>>
>> About 5 should do it, assuming Reza's going
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, adrianwason at btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the capacity of that place?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------
>> >On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:23 PM BST Rob Moss wrote:
>> >
>> >>Ye
>> >?without your $300 I'm sure.
>> >>
>> >>On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:08, DAIMON SPARKS <soundmagick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> omfg this is thee funniest+mostest BRILL move yet!!!ildE
>> >>>
>> >>> SCREW THA DUMB pozerz outta their plastic+use it to build BOMB
>> SHELTERS
>> >>> ON CYTHERA!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> HIP HIP HOORAY
>> >>>
>> >>> +++eye shall b able to view a proper DVD in the comfort+privacy
>> uv my
>> >>> own secure studio
>> >>>
>> >>> SO FUK U ALL ALL WHINY NONYOUTHFULL NONBELIEVER ZOMBI BIZEE
>> BEEZ UV
>> >>> MMXII
>> >>>
>> >>> U GOT NO INERTIA FOR KJ??? WUT DA fUk
>> >>>
>> >>> LOSERS
>> >>>
>> >>> ye shall perish
>> >>>
>> >>> killing joke will live forever
>> >>>
>> >>> BLOODY MALICIOUSLY!!!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jul 25, 2012 10:56 AM, "fatpotanga" <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Now we all know why Jaz *coughs* so much at the beginning of
>> MINOG ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:39, Paula Cook wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Over ?200 to see KJ?! They have just GOT to be joki...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.fatpotanga.com/
>> >>> http://www.iamscuzzy.com/
>> >>>
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