[kj] Official KJ site update: 1/23

[Adam Helfer]

well "parking" ones beliefs because you dont know where to turn is one thing-- a bit different then just scoffing at some topic or headline because it doesnt fit in what your head doesnt want to wrap around it. 
and agenda? who says an agenda has to be bad or that its a bad word? - dala llama has an 'agenda',  an organization helping homeless people has an agenda- someone can have an 'agenda of truth'

last time I checked, there was nothing in the 'new world order' agenda and all its sub topics, that has anything thats deemed positive or helpful to the common citizen. I know there is nothing in it that supports me, and there is no part of me that would want it to be true- but that doesnt have anything to do with there being some degree of truth to it all.  
 What is in it for a conspiracy researcher? fame- no money- no. I mean outside of alex jones to a small degree- most are met with a great deal of ridicule outside of their small circle- 
 Whats their agenda ? I don't see any positives outside of them having a personal belief of trying to establish truth in the areas they are researching- if you want to call that an 'agenda' then fine- but every single person has an agenda then. 

just have to do your own research on where to turn for real info- base it off of checks and balances and peoples advice who you trust. 
 the truth is out there- 

 

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On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


> See, this is the problem I face. Having expressed a healthy dose of caution and scepticism, people assume I'm predisposed to believe the 'official' version or that I'm not familiar with 'alternative' theories. Neither of these things is true.

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> As I said, I exercise caution and scepticism towards ALL sources, official, alternative or Martian. Everyone's got an agenda and an angle, so I think it's the best course to take.

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> J.

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> From: Adam Helfer <Devacor at aol.com>

> To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net> 

> Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012, 16:12

> Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: 1/23

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> sure well govt doesn't deny HAARP, Fema camps, chemtrails (there is even a bill that states chemtrails with that exact name)-  these aren't concoctions. 

> It's a matter of what agendas are (if you want to believe the gov't version)--  and sometimes agendas can be mixed/layered-- can have a warm fuzzy cover layer mixed in with other aspects.

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> MK Ultra sounded pretty far fetched, yet the govt was forced to own up and apologize. 

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> and if you want to talk about sources , paranoid etc- 

> there was word out that  language in Obamas health care package called for a micro chipped population (to help with better 'patient service') - There was/is some language that mentions chipping,  but it was the 'conspiracy' researchers who cleared it up that it wasn't as broad as people were initially reporting. 

>   so point is,  Its real easy and a bit cheap to just move these people in a 'paranoid conspiracy' box- They just happen to hyper focus into a realm that most people know little to nothing about. 

> Some of the reporting may seem very far fetched, if you have no background info to connect the dots up to the point of what they are reporting on. but cognitive dissonance isn't nec a valid argument against...

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>  I work some in mainstream media now- I can tell you 100% these people who feed you the news are not equipped to handle real news- even if their newsgroups allowed-- 

>  Just how doctors aren't equipped to actually understand and promote health--

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> If your argument against is a combo of ones own cognitive dissonance and conflicting mainstream/official reports, then I would only suggest to keep an open mind to alternative viewpoints and reporting. 

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> my only 'issue' with these 'alternative' viewpoints is how people convey it- Im not so much a fan of Alex jones' delivery and some of the 'fear mongering' , but thats a separate topic then the information itself...

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> Adam

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> On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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>> Unfortunately, the same sense of caution and scepticism that makes me reluctant to believe government propaganda (and so on), leads me to assume I shouldn't entirely trust men like Pilger, either, but I seem to have few friends in that region.

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>> J.

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>> And oil-fracking doesn't produce seismic activity. And 14,000 U.S. infants(mostly) haven't died from the Fukushima fallout. They may not be called "FEMA" camps but there will be camps. Sorry, are now camps. 

>> All should have a read of Hedges and Pilger. Some Pepe Escobar too.

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