[kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD

[Dominico C]

Man, hands down Elizibeth Frasier, Souxie, Lisa Gerard could sing! I'm not 
by any means a fan of Whitney, too bad though. I'm not going to complain 
about what kind of an artist she was, but I've heard worst stuff, her stuff 
is much better than having to listen to gangsta crap, butt Rock, Metalicka, 
Motley dork, or top 40 crap...  in High School. Yeah, most American music 
crap, made me choose UK and Canadian stuff.

But, in comparison, I would pick Elizibeth Frasier in a heart beat.





""My sentiments exactly, Alex. When Whitney Houston was releasing her music, 
I already had?my Siouxsie and the Banshees, my Dead Can Dance, my Xmal 
Deutschland, my Cocteau Twins on heavy rotation,?and?no one could change my 
music preferences and my love?of different female vocalists in the mid 80's 
already.?
??
I only feel very bad for the teenage daughter Whitney Houston is leaving 
behind. All the rest the media is going to stream?will be the?crocodile 
tears and this tragedy will yield big business,?as it is usually the 
case?when a mainstream star dies.""

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Today's Topics:

   1. Reverend and the Makers (kinda sorta on topic) (Ana Madani)
   2. Re: OT - QUICK Q'ESTION (Karen Weil)
   3. Re: OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD (Jay Retro)
   4. Re: OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD (sade1)


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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:13:01 -0500
From: Ana Madani <madanistan at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Reverend and the Makers (kinda sorta on topic)
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This is from the KJ official facebook (yes, I'm on FB - bite me):

Oh, and in other news... Youth has been working with Sheffield's Reverend
And The Makers <http://www.facebook.com/ReverendAndTheMakers> on their new
record, from which you can hear and download the first track, 'Bassline',
over on their profile now. Suitably menacing I'm sure you agree.
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:26:06 -0800
From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - QUICK Q'ESTION
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
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Erm ... somewhere in between?  ; )

k.w.


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Behalf Of TB
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:30 PM
To: 'sade1'; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - QUICK Q'ESTION

sade1 wrote:

?PRETENDERS: Punk, or Post-Punk?
?

:)

?
Carry on.

+++++++++++++++

First album - post-punk.  Everything after that, plain ol' rawk, power pop
to adolt contemporary.

I saw them early on the second album tour in mid '81 with the original
lineup - great show.  Saw them again in '83 at the US Festival after the
guitarist and bass player had died and been replaced, decent.  Saw them
again supporting U2 in late '87 - boring as fuck.  Saw them again at the
Wiltern around 2008-ish when they filmed their live dvd, again boring as
fuck.

T.B.

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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:40:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Retro <drretro at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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So, what's the plan on that- are they going to grind him up and give 
everyone a snort?
Or are they going to just place him back in the Danish peat bog where they 
originally excavated him from?


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How cruel...and unimaginative!


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So could Keith Richards, and he's 20 years older than Whitney. I'm not sure 
how he made it, mind you, and woe betide anyone on here who utters a 
syllable against the Great Man when he finally stops!
?
You've been warned ! ;)
?
Jim.
?
From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
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Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012, 9:00
Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD



Amusing to think that despite her musical shitness, from all accounts 
Whitney could quite possibly have drunk, smoked and snorted all of us under 
the table, before breakfast.
?
From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 
Behalf Of Countessghoulita at aol.com
Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 7:22 p.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD
?
My sentiments exactly, Alex. When Whitney Houston was releasing her music, I 
already had?my Siouxsie and the Banshees, my Dead Can Dance, my Xmal 
Deutschland, my Cocteau Twins on heavy rotation,?and?no one could change my 
music preferences and my love?of different female vocalists in the mid 80's 
already.?
??
I only feel very bad for the teenage daughter Whitney Houston is leaving 
behind. All the rest the media is going to stream?will be the?crocodile 
tears and this tragedy will yield big business,?as it is usually the 
case?when a mainstream star dies.
?
CG
?
?
In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:50:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
vassifer at earthlink.net writes:
?

>Our own Todd "Fluw" Wulfmeyer wrote a nice little anecdote on his his 

>Facebook page about once witnessing Houston perform from a rare backstage 

>vantage point and it made me consider her talent in a different way.

>?

>I mean, personally speaking, I COMPLETELY DESPISED Whitney Houston's music. 

>When her first album debuted back in the 198whatever, I was working as a 

>luckless dishwasher at posh Long Island eatery, and that tape went into 

>maddeningly regular rotation in the in-house stereo system. "Saving All My 

>Love For You" and "The Greatest Love of All" were really enough to send me 

>into fits of apoplectic rage after a while that a friend of mine and I 

>actually scaled up the fridges to disconnect the speakers the fed the back 

>kitchen. ?I fucking HATED that overblown, syrupply hoary, needlessly 

>melismatic bullshit. See also Mariah Carey and all the rest of that crap.

>?

>As was completely the same case with Michael Jackson, the music I sought 

>out at the time (and, for that matter, still) served as the ANTIDOTE to the 

>inescapable Whitney Houston. Did she have a powerful voice? Certainly, but 

>that doesn't mean I have to like what she did with it. On other fronts, she 

>also seemed to embody everything negative about the "DIVA" stereotype 

>(although, our Jaz is kinda guilty of that as well, sometimes).

>?

>So yeah, I hated Whitney Houston's music. But Fluw's account underscored 

>how very much joy Whitney's music DID bring to people. I'm usually of the 

>mindset that people need to raise their standards and listen to what I'd 

>consider to be better music, but really -- that's all ridiculous, 

>fight-picking bluster (who ME?)

>?

>Whitney Houston's music -- as much as I may not have enjoyed it -- did mean 

>a great deal to a lot of people, For that alone, it's a loss (to say 

>nothing of the bizarre farce that her marriage to Bobby Brown evidently 

>was). I can't imagine how her daughter has remained sane.

>?

>Alex in NYC

>?

>?

>On Feb 12, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jim Harper wrote:

>

>

>

>Quality Songstress? Not sure I can easily agree with that one.

>?

>Jim.

>?

>?

>?From:sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>

>To: real gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2012, 1:29

>Subject: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD

>?

>Whitney Houston was found dead, but cause and?

>where are not being said,?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvg2Dcr7AFk?

>?

>She was from a long line of quality songstresses.

>?

>?

>?

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>? they?let?in the Light,

>? ? others all are just a..

>? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall"

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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:46:28 -0800 (PST)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD
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> "guilty pleasures"...?



Kelly Clarkson, Keri Hilson, Gaga, Phoenix, M83, And One, Dusty Springfield, 
Head Shop Girls, among tre' so many others it's hard for me to say now where 
the guilt begins. Or the shame.






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From: Ana Madani <madanistan at gmail.com>
To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>; A list about all things Killing 
Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD


Maybe we should have a "guilty pleasures" thread.

My two cents:? Houston had a great voice, but how she chose to use it left a 
lot to be desired.?

Same with Van Halen as instrumentalists.


On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> 
wrote:

So could Keith Richards, and he's 20 years older than Whitney. I'm not sure 
how he made it, mind you, and woe betide anyone on here who utters a 
syllable against the Great Man when he finally stops!

>?

>You've been warned ! ;)

>?

>Jim.

>?

>From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012, 9:00

>

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD

>

>

>

>Amusing to think that despite her musical shitness, from all accounts 

>Whitney could quite possibly have drunk, smoked and snorted all of us under 

>the table, before breakfast.

>?

>From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 

>Behalf Of Countessghoulita at aol.com

>Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 7:22 p.m.

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD

>?

>My sentiments exactly, Alex. When Whitney Houston was releasing her music, 

>I already had?my Siouxsie and the Banshees, my Dead Can Dance, my Xmal 

>Deutschland, my Cocteau Twins on heavy rotation,?and?no one could change my 

>music preferences and my love?of different female vocalists in the mid 80's 

>already.?

>??

>I only feel very bad for the teenage daughter Whitney Houston is leaving 

>behind. All the rest the media is going to stream?will be the?crocodile 

>tears and this tragedy will yield big business,?as it is usually the 

>case?when a mainstream star dies.

>?

>CG

>?

>?

>In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:50:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 

>vassifer at earthlink.net writes:

>?

>>Our own Todd "Fluw" Wulfmeyer wrote a nice little anecdote on his his 

>>Facebook page about once witnessing Houston perform from a rare backstage 

>>vantage point and it made me consider her talent in a different way.

>>?

>>I mean, personally speaking, I COMPLETELY DESPISED Whitney Houston's 

>>music. When her first album debuted back in the 198whatever, I was working 

>>as a luckless dishwasher at posh Long Island eatery, and that tape went 

>>into maddeningly regular rotation in the in-house stereo system. "Saving 

>>All My Love For You" and "The Greatest Love of All" were really enough to 

>>send me into fits of apoplectic rage after a while that a friend of mine 

>>and I actually scaled up the fridges to disconnect the speakers the fed 

>>the back kitchen. ?I fucking HATED that overblown, syrupply hoary, 

>>needlessly melismatic bullshit. See also Mariah Carey and all the rest of 

>>that crap.

>>?

>>As was completely the same case with Michael Jackson, the music I sought 

>>out at the time (and, for that matter, still) served as the ANTIDOTE to 

>>the inescapable Whitney Houston. Did she have a powerful voice? Certainly, 

>>but that doesn't mean I have to like what she did with it. On other 

>>fronts, she also seemed to embody everything negative about the "DIVA" 

>>stereotype (although, our Jaz is kinda guilty of that as well, sometimes).

>>?

>>So yeah, I hated Whitney Houston's music. But Fluw's account underscored 

>>how very much joy Whitney's music DID bring to people. I'm usually of the 

>>mindset that people need to raise their standards and listen to what I'd 

>>consider to be better music, but really -- that's all ridiculous, 

>>fight-picking bluster (who ME?)

>>?

>>Whitney Houston's music -- as much as I may not have enjoyed it -- did 

>>mean a great deal to a lot of people, For that alone, it's a loss (to say 

>>nothing of the bizarre farce that her marriage to Bobby Brown evidently 

>>was). I can't imagine how her daughter has remained sane.

>>?

>>Alex in NYC

>>?

>>?

>>On Feb 12, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jim Harper wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>Quality Songstress? Not sure I can easily agree with that one.

>>?

>>Jim.

>>?

>>?

>>?From:sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>

>>To: real gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2012, 1:29

>>Subject: [kj] OT OT - HOUSTON DEAD

>>?

>>Whitney Houston was found dead, but cause and?

>>where are not being said,?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvg2Dcr7AFk?

>>?

>>She was from a long line of quality songstresses.

>>?

>>?

>>?

>>Blessed are the Cracked for?

>>? they?let?in the Light,

>>? ? others all are just a..

>>? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall"

>>

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