[kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse

[Dominico C]

I have to agree, Ministry went down the wayside when Paul Barker left...



""Personally i think they lost it after Paul Barker left , 
although?I'll?still listen to the recent albums they just pale 
in?comparison?to the stuff that he was on.
They lost that Industrial edge and turned more metal and the whole bush 
thing became rather tiresome in the end.
Still hope to catch them one last time Live as well if i can.""



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   1. Re: manchester (fatpotanga)
   2. Re: manchester (jon chapman)
   3. Re: Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse
      (Devacor at aol.com)
   4. Re: Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse (Simon Abinett)
   5. Re: Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse (sade1)
   6. OT: Tee-shirt (Brendan)
   7. Re: OT: Tee-shirt (GREG SLAWSON)
   8. Re: OT: Tee-shirt (Jay Retro)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:57:44 +0000
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] manchester
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On 31 Jan 2012, at 18:36, Dirk Kingerske wrote:


> who is up for manchester anyway????


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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:27:23 +0000
From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
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Manchester hotels on a saturday are fucking expensive. i'm staying a mile 
further south of the Academy . 
http://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/victoriaparkhotel.en-gb.html?sid=6090b08a69622429274ab18c0e9c38cc;dcid=1 
Relatively clean.




From: kingsnake at hotmail.de
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:36:21 +0100
Subject: [kj] manchester







slowly it's getting serious... the flights are booked and we're still 
looking for some decent/cheap accomodation in Manchester... before I book 
Ibis or whatever on hrs... are there any recommodations (we need one double 
and one single)... who is up for manchester anyway????

dirt

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:01:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Devacor at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse
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ok, well went through and gave it another skim.
I'd say its probably about on par with recent releases.
Couple good songs, some ok filler, and then some head scratchers.
topics include: addiction, current (OWS, etc), political, and lifes a real
MF'er. - about what you'd expect. And music follows pretty much the
standard  Ministry format.

They have a song "99%" which seems it will be the one that would be  their
standout/anthem song- although the lyrics are a bit simplistic- and I
would have expected a bit more from them in that dept on that topic.
They also do a "Get up Get out and Vote" that seems to be going for anthem.
There is a kind of trashy ballad sort of track (Bloodlust)  that I  liked
and showed a little variation-
If you were making a top 20 ministry comp for someone, you may throw  that
one in there to round things out.
Most of it falls into what I usually think of their songs- I like the
intro, or the guitar riff, or vocals in the song but most of  the time it
doesn't happen all in the same song, lol.
They do a United Forces S.O.D. cover.
Im sure everyone could pull a few things they like out of it.
I might try to interview Ol' Al -- not nec on the music but just to let him
expound on some current topics

Adam







In a message dated 1/26/2012 3:22:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
louiecipher33 at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Adam
What is the verdict on the new Ministry  ?

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:11:47 +0000
From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse
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ThanksPersonally i think they lost it after Paul Barker left , although I'll 
still listen to the recent albums they just pale in comparison to the stuff 
that he was on.They lost that Industrial edge and turned more metal and the 
whole bush thing became rather tiresome in the end.Still hope to catch them 
one last time Live as well if i can.


From: Devacor at aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:01:34 -0500
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse








ok, well went through and gave it another skim.
I'd say its probably about on par with recent releases.
Couple good songs, some ok filler, and then some head scratchers.
topics include: addiction, current (OWS, etc), political, and lifes a real
MF'er. - about what you'd expect. And music follows pretty much the standard
Ministry format.

They have a song "99%" which seems it will be the one that would be
their standout/anthem song- although the lyrics are a bit simplistic- and I
would have expected a bit more from them in that dept on that topic.
They also do a "Get up Get out and Vote" that seems to be going for anthem.

There is a kind of trashy ballad sort of track (Bloodlust)  that I
liked and showed a little variation-
If you were making a top 20 ministry comp for someone, you may throw
that one in there to round things out.
Most of it falls into what I usually think of their songs- I like the
intro, or the guitar riff, or vocals in the song but most of
the time it doesn't happen all in the same song, lol.
They do a United Forces S.O.D. cover.
Im sure everyone could pull a few things they like out of it.
I might try to interview Ol' Al -- not nec on the music but just to let him
expound on some current topics

Adam







In a message dated 1/26/2012 3:22:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
louiecipher33 at hotmail.com writes:
Hi
  Adam
What is the verdict on the new Ministry
?

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:47:24 -0800 (PST)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse
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Pretty much how I feel about the band. Will still maintain open mind and 
look forward to hearing their latest. ?If it can match "Lockbox" and 
"Unsung" then all the better.?
?
?


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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse




Thanks
Personally i think they lost it after Paul Barker left , although?I'll?still 
listen to the recent albums they just pale in?comparison?to the stuff that 
he was on.
They lost that Industrial edge and turned more metal and the whole bush 
thing became rather tiresome in the end.
Still hope to catch them one last time Live as well if i can.

?



________________________________
From: Devacor at aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:01:34 -0500
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site update: New Ministry/Relapse

ok, well went through and gave it another skim.
?I'd say its probably about on par with recent releases.
Couple good songs, some ok filler, and then some head scratchers.
topics include: addiction, current (OWS, etc), political, and lifes a real
MF'er. - about what you'd expect. And music follows pretty much the standard
Ministry format.
?
?They have a song "99%" which seems it will be the one that would be
their standout/anthem song- although the lyrics are a bit simplistic- and I
would have expected a bit more from them in that dept on that topic.
They also do a "Get up Get out and Vote" that seems to be going for anthem.
There is a kind of trashy ballad sort of track (Bloodlust) ?that I
liked?and showed a little variation-?
If?you were making a top 20 ministry comp for someone, you may throw
that one in there to round things out.
?Most of it falls into what I usually think of their songs- I like the
intro, or?the guitar riff, or vocals in the song but?most of
the?time it doesn't happen all in the same song, lol.
?They do a United Forces S.O.D. cover.
?Im sure everyone could pull a few things they like out of it.
I might try to interview Ol' Al -- not nec on the music but just to let him
expound on some current topics
?
Adam
?
?
?
?
?
?
In a message dated 1/26/2012 3:22:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
louiecipher33 at hotmail.com writes:
Hi  Adam

>What is the verdict on the new Ministry

?

>

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:03:09 +1300 (NZDT)
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: [kj] OT: Tee-shirt
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Last Wed I got to meet Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden after the gig, and he
signed my original Screaming Elf (cover pic from Superunknown) tee-shirt.
Already my favourite possession, now it's a holy relic.

Problem is, I was in the mosh for 2 hours prior so it was really damp and
reeks of other people's sweat.

So I don't think I can wash it cos the sig will come off...not sure what
kind of pen it was cos it was someone else's. Any ideas? Im thinking I'll
have it framed but it would be nice to get it cleaned somehow beforehand.




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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:05:48 -0500
From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
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Was the pen grey w/a black cap and clip? If so it was probably a sharpie and 
won't wash off.If the guy planned to use the pen for autographs (or if it 
was the band's) it was also most likely a sharpie.If you're not sure, try 
rubbing some hot water on the sig and see if it smudges!

> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:03:09 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] OT: Tee-shirt

>

> Last Wed I got to meet Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden after the gig, and he

> signed my original Screaming Elf (cover pic from Superunknown) tee-shirt.

> Already my favourite possession, now it's a holy relic.

>

> Problem is, I was in the mosh for 2 hours prior so it was really damp and

> reeks of other people's sweat.

>

> So I don't think I can wash it cos the sig will come off...not sure what

> kind of pen it was cos it was someone else's. Any ideas? Im thinking I'll

> have it framed but it would be nice to get it cleaned somehow beforehand.

>

>

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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:53:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Retro <drretro at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tee-shirt
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You could turn it inside out, and hang it on a line outside for a while. 
Whack it with some Fabreeze if the stench doesn't disappear.


T-shirts do rather well in album frames. You can wrap it around a cardboard 
square, and the spring clips will hold it in place. They sell them at Target 
and Michael's stores.

?
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How cruel...and unimaginative!


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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tee-shirt



Was the pen grey w/a black cap and clip? If so it was probably a sharpie and 
won't wash off.
If the guy planned to use the pen for autographs (or if it was the band's) 
it was also most likely a sharpie.
If you're not sure, try?rubbing some hot water on the sig?and see if it 
smudges!
?


> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:03:09 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] OT: Tee-shirt

>

> Last Wed I got to meet Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden after the gig, and he

> signed my original Screaming Elf (cover pic from Superunknown) tee-shirt.

> Already my favourite possession, now it's a holy relic.

>

> Problem is, I was in the mosh for 2 hours prior so it was really damp and

> reeks of other people's sweat.

>

> So I don't think I can wash it cos the sig will come off...not sure what

> kind of pen it was cos it was someone else's. Any ideas? Im thinking I'll

> have it framed but it would be nice to get it cleaned somehow beforehand.

>

>

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