[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 102
Marcel
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Sat Aug 25 23:17:35 EDT 2012
It doubtlessly was a farce. In the last weeks the discussion on here has
become an even bigger farce. Just let it f...ing go for Christ's sake.
Am 25.08.2012 22:36, schrieb gathering-request at misera.net:
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> 1. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60 (F Luke)
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> 3. Re: Colemangate drags on... (sade1)
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> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:55:19 +0000
> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> The identity of the people isnt being questioned, the question is whether it was a drunken rant by Jaz or whether is was a deliberate ploy by Jaz to get the tour cancelled
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> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:16:50 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> A better example and question would be, if a worker asks a co-worker to tell their boss, "Attention, dear jerk....you suck, blow and spin" and the 1st worker shows an employee ID badge and reconfirms his statement and desire for it to be forward to their boss.. the better question would be, can you blame employee #2 for having done so (forwarded #1's statement)? The answer would be no.
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> Blessed are the Cracked for they let in the Light, others all are just a.. 'nother brick in the Wall
> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering
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> So, if you go out with a friend to a bar and have a few drinks , everyone gets a bit carried away and he starts ranting about his job, how he hates his boss and he leans over and slurs, "Tommorow , go and tell my boss that hes a twat and tell him that I resign from my job"Would you get on the phone the next day and relay the message to the Boss?
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> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:10:53 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> Jaz fuckin' blew it, and took a fan down with him, plain and simple. He needs to make it up to him and by extension the fanBase for
> jerking them around.
> Basically, Cormac is (was?) a fan willing and eager to meet the band and share of that meeting whatever news and comments the exalted et illustrious Knight Le Chevalier cared to air. But the great wandering Knight Jaz Le Chevalier de la Sahaire instead stood back from, denied and thereby discredited and smeared the eager fan le peasant Cormac by singling
> out Cormac's faceBook/posting as made-up bullshit that Jaz never said. "Jeez, what kind of a fan would do such a thing," others not in-the-Know may ask of Cormac, because le grande Chevalier freaked out at it all. Any righteous Knight would have sworn the poor naif to secrecy and then have asked him to accompany him on his great peregrinage to fight the godless savages the Paynim Touareg and alAqeadinIslamic Maghrib tribes beyond The Great Sands. Or maybe offer him free tickets and lodging at the next KJ Festival appearance.
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> Blessed are the Cracked for they let in the Light, others all are just a.. 'nother brick in the
> Wall
> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:31 AM
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> Of course it's Cormac's fault! He'll think twice next time Jaz gives him messages to distribute...
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> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 8:44
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> That is quite an exaggeration, Cormac hasnt been left to die .
> Maybe in future he should wait for KJ to make an official statement, rather than trying to speak on their behalf .
> Jaz has been left to pick up the pieces which were the result of Cormacs posts .
> Cormac should accept some of the blame for the whole fiasco , even so, Jaz didnt make any accusations or name anyone.
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> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:40:20 +0100
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> Again, that's exactly how I feel.
> I couldn't care less about the 'chaos surrounds us get on with it' thing - we all know the unpredictability of the beast.
> It's the ridiculous cover up & such painfully embarrassing lies.
> Jaz being dressed as a woman & shoved on the lifeboat while pushing Cormac overboard to distract the sharks has left a very sour taste
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> On 15 Aug 2012, at 23:44, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
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> No offence taken. Here's my viewpoint:
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> Yes, it would be nice if you could rely on KJ to show up when they say they will. However, you can't.
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> But that's not the thing that really gets me - which is the utterly lame excuses, and the idea that somehow it's just like that, 'cos it's Killing Joke, y'know.
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> i can remember jaz saying he would like to be on a bill with Rammstein
> which is a bit different from the cult or mission
> ?
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> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012, 10:55
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> The identity of the people isnt being?questioned, the question is whether it was a drunken rant by Jaz or whether is was a?deliberate?ploy by Jaz to get the tour cancelled
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> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:16:50 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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>
> A better example and question would be, if a worker asks a co-worker to tell their boss, "Attention, dear jerk....you suck, blow and spin" and the 1st worker shows an employee ID ?badge and reconfirms his statement and desire for it to be forward to their boss.. the better question would be, can you blame employee #2 for having done so (forwarded #1's statement)? The answer ?would be no.?
>
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> Blessed are the Cracked for?
> ? they?let?in the Light,
> ? ? others all are just a..
> ? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall
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> ________________________________
> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> So, if you go out with a friend to a bar and have a few drinks , everyone gets a bit carried away and he starts ranting about his job, how he hates his boss and he leans over and slurs, "Tommorow , go and tell my boss that hes a twat and tell him that I resign from my job"
> Would you get on the phone the next day and relay the message to the Boss?
>
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> ________________________________
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:10:53 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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>
> Jaz fuckin' blew it, and took a fan down with him, plain and simple. He needs to make it up to him and by extension the fanBase for jerking them around.
>
> Basically, Cormac is (was?) a fan willing and eager to meet the band and share of that meeting whatever news and comments the exalted et illustrious Knight Le Chevalier cared to air. But the great wandering Knight Jaz Le Chevalier de la Sahaire instead stood back from, denied and thereby discredited and smeared the eager fan le peasant Cormac by singling out Cormac's faceBook/posting as made-up bullshit that Jaz never said. "Jeez, what kind of a fan would do such a thing," others not in-the-Know may ask?of Cormac, because le grande Chevalier freaked out at it all.?
> Any righteous Knight would have sworn the poor naif to secrecy and then have asked him to accompany him on his great peregrinage to fight the godless savages the Paynim Touareg and alAqeadinIslamic Maghrib tribes beyond The Great Sands. Or maybe offer him free tickets and lodging at the next KJ Festival appearance.?
>
>
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> Blessed are the Cracked for?
> ? they?let?in the Light,
> ? ? others all are just a..
> ? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall
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> ________________________________
> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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> Of course it's Cormac's fault! He'll think twice next time Jaz gives him messages to distribute...
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> From: F Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 8:44
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
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>
> That is quite an?exaggeration, Cormac hasnt been left to die .
> Maybe in future he should wait for KJ to make an official?statement, rather than trying to speak on their behalf .
> Jaz has been left to pick up the pieces which were the result of Cormacs posts .
> Cormac should accept some of the blame for the whole fiasco , even so, Jaz didnt make any accusations or name anyone.
>
>
> From: fatpotanga at gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:40:20 +0100
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 110, Issue 60
>
> Again, that's exactly how I feel.
> I couldn't care less about the 'chaos surrounds us get on with it' thing - we all know the unpredictability of the beast.
> It's the ridiculous cover up & such painfully embarrassing lies.
> Jaz being dressed as a woman & shoved on the lifeboat while pushing Cormac overboard to distract the sharks has left a very sour taste?
>
>
> On 15 Aug 2012, at 23:44, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
>
> No offence taken.? Here's my viewpoint:
>> Yes, it would be nice if you could rely on KJ to show up when they say they will.? However, you can't.
>>
>> But that's not the thing that really gets me - which is the utterly lame excuses, and the idea that somehow it's just like that, 'cos it's Killing Joke, y'know.
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> Like!
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> Blessed are the Cracked for?
> ? they?let?in the Light,
> ? ? others all are just a..
> ? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall
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> From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:44 PM
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> I CAN SEE TOMORROW!
> I CAN SEE THE WORLD TO COME!
> I CAN SEE TOMORROW!
> ANOTHER CANCELLATION!
> ?
> From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
> Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 3:23 p.m.
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> All on the same date printed on both venue and airline tickets.?
> ?
> ?
> Blessed are the Cracked for?
> ? they?let?in the Light,
> ? ? others all are just a..
> ? ? ? 'nother brick in the Wall
> ?
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> From:Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Colemangate drags on...
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> I reckon I may see 1 or 2 of you outslde the Apollo trying to flog your ticket to a Cult or Mission fan.?
> Or actually entering the venue for the surprisingly refreshing (to a Gatherer) fan experience of paying for a ticket, turning up to the venue and enjoying the entertainment you paid for.
> ?
> From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of pssyche23
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> I read about the Western Sahara angle from an internet cafe in Fuerteventura ... to think, the answer to the mystery was just across the water ... we had it hot & sunny, about 30c to 37c max every day ... now back in good old blighty, I reckon I may see 1 or 2 of you outslde the Apollo trying to flog your ticket to a Cult or Mission fan.?
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> On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:24, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. I understand that your weather over there has been quite inclement,?of late.
>> ?
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>> From: paulwady at hotmail.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:18:23 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Colemangate drags on...
>> Oh for God's sake....
>> ?
>> Yeah, I see what you are getting at. ?This is bloody stupid! ?Look, are they playing with The Mission and The Cult or not?
>> ?
>> I like both bands because I don't take them as seriously as I do KJ. ?Especially the mad-carry on with Mission lyrics. ?Cult are good? ?
>> ?
>> Which is my point, really. ?Not to be too bothered about a man who stands in front of a church congregation in that film clip of TDARS, saying crap like that? ?
>> ?
>> So...could we discuss the weather now? ?Been good here in UK but its cold and rainy the past few hours....
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