[kj] Jaz still AWOL

[Alexander Smith]

Bahahaha.

On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:


> I wonder what Mnsr. Le Chevalier Coleman would've wrote.

>

> He might again suggest that people suicide bomb multinationals, and  

> then promptly go and not do it himself.

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: Monday, 20 August 2012 10:25 a.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz still AWOL

>

> I agree with you, they shouldn't have cut down the church's cross.  

> Where else would cross'dressers hang their tinsel and garments if  

> not their persecutors' bodies? (Hang not lest ye be hung?) The  

> crosscutting was (to me, anyway) a misdirected intention from a  

> usually pretty-good-at-protesting bunch of girls. What got to me was  

> when they toppled the Eurocup on display. I jsut felt wrong to watch.

>

> Here is the closing statement from one of the band, at close of  

> trial. It's got lots to say:

> Read this closing statement from a member of the imprisoned group  

> Pussy Riot.

> Yekaterina Samutsevich’s closing statement in the criminal case  

> against the feminist punk group Pussy Riot.

>

> "During the closing statement, the defendant is expected to repent  

> or express regret for her deeds, or to enumerate attenuating cir

> cumstances. In my case, as in the case of my colleagues in the  

> group, this is completely unnecessary. Instead, I want to express my  

> views about the causes of what has happened with us.

>

> The fact that Christ the Savior Cathedral had become a significant  

> symbol in the political strategy of our powers that be was already  

> clear to many thinking people when Vladimir Putin’s former [KGB]  

> colleague Kirill Gundyaev took over as head of the Russian Orthodox  

> Church. After this happened, Christ the Savior Cathedral began to be  

> used openly as a flashy setting for the politics of the security  

> services, which are the main source of power [in Russia].

>

> Why did Putin feel the need to exploit the Orthodox religion and its  

> aesthetics? After all, he could have employed his own, far more  

> secular tools of power—for example, national corporations, or his  

> menacing police system, or his own obedient judiciary system. It may  

> be that the tough, failed policies of Putin’s government, the  

> incident with the submarine Kursk, the bombings of civilians in  

> broad daylight, and other unpleasant moments in his political career  

> forced him to ponder the fact that it was high time to resign;  

> otherwise, the citizens of Russia would help him do this.  

> Apparently, it was then that he felt the need for more convincing,  

> transcendental guarantees of his long tenure at the helm. It was  

> here that the need arose to make use of the aesthetics of the  

> Orthodox religion, historically associated with the heyday of  

> Imperial Russia, where power came not from earthly manifestations  

> such as democratic elections and civil society, but from God Himself.

>

> How did he succeed in doing this? After all, we still have a secular  

> state, and shouldn’t any intersection of the religious and political  

> spheres be dealt with severely by our vigilant and critically minded  

> society? Here, apparently, the authorities took advantage of a  

> certain deficit of Orthodox aesthetics in Soviet times, when the  

> Orthodox religion had the aura of a lost history, of something  

> crushed and damaged by the Soviet totalitarian regime, and was thus  

> an opposition culture. The authorities decided to appropriate this  

> historical effect of loss and present their new political project to  

> restore Russia’s lost spiritual values, a project which has little  

> to do with a genuine concern for preservation of Russian Orthodoxy’s  

> history and culture.

>

> It was also fairly logical that the Russian Orthodox Church, which  

> has long had a mystical connection with power, emerged as this  

> project’s principal executor in the media. Moreover, it was also  

> agreed that the Russian Orthodox Church, unlike the Soviet era, when  

> the church opposed, above all, the crudeness of the authorities  

> towards history itself, should also confront all baleful  

> manifestations of contemporary mass culture, with its concept of  

> diversity and tolerance.

>

> Implementing this thoroughly interesting political project has  

> required considerable quantities of professional lighting and video  

> equipment, air time on national TV channels for hours-long live  

> broadcasts, and numerous background shoots for morally and ethically  

> edifying news stories, where in fact the Patriarch’s well- 

> constructed speeches would be pronounced, helping the faithful make  

> the right political choice during the election campaign, a difficult  

> time for Putin. Moreover, all shooting has to take place  

> continuously; the necessary images must sink into the memory and be  

> constantly updated, to create the impression of something natural,  

> constant and compulsory.

>

> Our sudden musical appearance in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior  

> with the song “Mother of God, Drive Putin Out” violated the  

> integrity of this media image, generated and maintained by the  

> authorities for so long, and revealed its falsity. In our  

> performance we dared, without the Patriarch’s blessing, to combine  

> the visual image of Orthodox culture and protest culture, suggesting  

> to smart people that Orthodox culture belongs not only to the  

> Russian Orthodox Church, the Patriarch and Putin, that it might also  

> take the side of civic rebellion and protest in Russia.

>

> Perhaps such an unpleasant large-scale effect from our media  

> intrusion into the cathedral was a surprise to the authorities  

> themselves. First they tried to present our performance as the prank  

> of heartless militant atheists. But they made a huge blunder, since  

> by this time we were already known as an anti-Putin feminist punk  

> band that carried out their media raids on the country’s major  

> political symbols.

>

> In the end, considering all the irreversible political and symbolic  

> losses caused by our innocent creativity, the authorities decided to  

> protect the public from us and our nonconformist thinking. Thus  

> ended our complicated punk adventure in the Cathedral of Christ the  

> Savior.

>

> I now have mixed feelings about this trial. On the one hand, we now  

> expect a guilty verdict. Compared to the judicial machine, we are  

> nobodies, and we have lost. On the other hand, we have won. Now the  

> whole world sees that the criminal case against us has been  

> fabricated. The system cannot conceal the repressive nature of this  

> trial. Once again, Russia looks different in the eyes of the world  

> from the way Putin tries to present it at daily international  

> meetings. All the steps toward a state governed by the rule of law  

> that he promised have obviously not been made. And his statement  

> that the court in our case will be objective and make a fair  

> decision is another deception of the entire country and the  

> international community. That is all. Thank you."

> from the Skylight Books fB. https://www.facebook.com/skylightbooks?ref=stream

>

> I wonder what Mnsr. Le Chevalier Coleman would've wrote.

> Written, i mean.

>

>

> Blessed are the Cracked for

>   they let in the Light,

>     others all are just a..

>       'nother brick in the Wall

>

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net 

> >

> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:51 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz still AWOL

>

>

> I really think these people who protest so violently against the  

> church are kind of missing the point.

>

> I'm no fan of the church. Headcount lyrics would confirm that, but  

> is there anything to be gained in vandalizing a church? I just don't  

> get it. It's like the most petulant and holiday way in which to  

> protest.

>

> Ok girls. No one is listening to our records. How do we make our  

> point. Oh I know. Let's pick on the church.

> Yeah. Beat the shit out of a cripple too why don't you I you want  

> shock value!

>

> Should Pussy Riot have gone to jail? Of course not. Should they have  

> made a smarter protest? Yes. Of course they should protest. If we  

> don't protest we are cannot call ourselves intelligent life IMO and  

> Putin? Well.......

>

> The St Paul's protesters had the sense to not storm the church. That  

> would have guaranteed a harsher reaction. PR could have picked a  

> clever target. Maybe a bag of liver and maggots at the local music  

> rag might be an idea.....

>

>

> On 19 Aug 2012, at 05:14, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> >

> > There is a video of those oh-so-delicioux protest godesses FEMEN  

> responding to the Pusssy Riot issue w/a Breast Bash of their own by  

> chopping down the High Holy Crucifix outside the local Orthodox  

> Church. WITH a chainsaw. =:~o +:~* Wendy O Williams would've been so  

> very, very proud of them.  Amn't at my 'puter so cnt post da Utube  

> link.

> > ------------------------------

> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 4:48 PM PDT Brendan Quinn wrote:

> >

> >> Pussy Riot have hopefully wiped any last bit of interest anyone  

> had in the Coleman saga, thank god.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ] On Behalf Of pssyche23

> >> Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 6:36 a.m.

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Cc: gathering at misera.net

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz still AWOL

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sent from my iPhone

> >>

> >>

> >> On 13 Aug 2012, at 11:27, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:

> >>

> >> The Guardian website actually had this relatively prominent.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/13/killing-joke-jaz-coleman-resurfaces

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> The last line is particularly comic:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> "Nevertheless, there remain signs of friction within Killing  

> Joke. On Sunday morning, just one hour before Coleman's comeback  

> statement, Killing Joke called off a gig on 8 September "due to Jaz  

> still not surfacing". That concert, at London's Metropolis Studios,  

> was due to be recorded for a live DVD."

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> So, not due to the fact that only one ticket has been sold, to Mr  

> A. Adamiak of west London?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Jamie

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Definitely not me - the facebook event suggested 40 "guests" but  

> likely only 10% of those actually bought a ticket.

> >>

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