[kj] New Uprising
andrew scott
brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Apr 3 09:47:05 EDT 2012
What simple bit of work that is, just hope the files are not attacting any undiagnosd viruses. Now I know how to have hours of fun by compiling CD-Rs when run out of listening pleasure, hahahaha!! I can certainly hear the Rammstein connection & really like the hard edge to the track. Did not listen to it in full as not heard LP yet!! Looking fwd to this new one, whenever it arrives as the comparisons to Extremities make it sound worthwhile. Was hoping to get it by Easter especially as my neighbours downstairs have just moved out but suppose could b the perfect weapon to scare the new ones!!
As for the Ministry LP, well certainly quite extreme to begin with, reminded me of hearing Lard for first time in 1993 & also Mind Is A Terrible Thing. Perhaps would be good time for another Biafra collaboration as parts of Guantanamo just sounded as though trying to recreate Dead Kennedys. Yeah there are many good trackss on Relapse, has anyone noticed a very definite K Joke 80s influence on 99 Percenters??!! Liked the choral singing on Bloodlust too!! Also def worth getting for the bonus track, might check out some of the Mixes Cds if can find them cheap on Amazon.
The Fungus Moth.
Challenging the Future.
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1. Re: New Uprising (Neil Perry)
2. Re: New Uprising: convert to Mp3? (Rheinhold Squeegee)
3. Re: New Uprising: convert to Mp3? (jon chapman)
4. Off Topic-The Fallen (ADRIAN WASON)
5. 2012 arrived (ADRIAN WASON)
6. Re: New Uprising: convert to Mp3? (Neil Perry)
7. Jaz Coleman talks- FEMA CAMP (Devacor at aol.com)
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:27:50 +0200
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising
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And the intro is a blatant rip of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ScQivK5DY
which used to be on the intro tape along with (Up the) Gary Glitter and
Booids
On 2 April 2012 13:36, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> Why wasn't it an extra track on the vinyl or summat?
>
> It's good. But sounds like an idea dragged out too long. Big chorus
> though. Needs editing.
>
> On 2 Apr 2012, at 11:24, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Really expecting the Rammstein guy to start singing instead of Jaz after
> that synth beginning ;)
>
> But its got a groove - is that not the Butcher drumbeat that Big Paul has
> resurrected?
>
> Agreed, can see why its an extra track. But its still better than Fema
> Camp...
>
> n
>
> On 2 April 2012 08:17, Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at miljonmysteriet.com>wrote:
>
>> I feared that I would need to buy the entire album on iTunes to
>> get New Uprising, but (at least in Sweden) it's available as a single track.
>>
>> That's good (although i would have prefered it to be available as
>> an extra track on In Cythera or another "physical" release).
>>
>> The track it self? Maybe not my pick as best track of the album...
>>
>> /Per
>>
>>
>> 2 apr 2012 kl. 02.01 skrev Neil Perry:
>>
>> > Liking this on first listen. Nice beat with a twist, lots of pulsing
>> keyboards,
>> > even if Jaz doing his growly voice. Its a real stomper.
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From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising: convert to Mp3?
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Does anyone have the ability to convert this to Mp3 (as opposed to itunes Mp4) and make available through the usual channels?
It would be much appreciated. I will buy the track eventually, I promise...
From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:36:23 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising
Why wasn't it an extra track on the vinyl or summat?
It's good. But sounds like an idea dragged out too long. Big chorus though. Needs editing.
On 2 Apr 2012, at 11:24, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
Really expecting the Rammstein guy to start singing instead of Jaz after that synth beginning ;)
But its got a groove - is that not the Butcher drumbeat that Big Paul has resurrected?
Agreed, can see why its an extra track. But its still better than Fema Camp...
n
On 2 April 2012 08:17, Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:
I feared that I would need to buy the entire album on iTunes to get New Uprising, but (at least in Sweden) it's available as a single track.
That's good (although i would have prefered it to be available as an extra track on In Cythera or another "physical" release).
The track it self? Maybe not my pick as best track of the album...
/Per
2 apr 2012 kl. 02.01 skrev Neil Perry:
> Liking this on first listen. Nice beat with a twist, lots of pulsing keyboards,
> even if Jaz doing his growly voice. Its a real stomper.
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From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising: convert to Mp3?
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http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
piece o piss.
Life is like a movie,if you've sat through more than half of it and its sucked every second so far,it probably isn't gonna get great right at the end and make it all worthwhile.
No one should blame you for walking out early.
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:36:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising: convert to Mp3?
Does anyone have the ability to convert this to Mp3 (as opposed to itunes Mp4) and make available through the usual channels?
It would be much appreciated. I will buy the track eventually, I promise...
From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:36:23 +0100
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising
Why wasn't it an extra track on the vinyl or summat?
It's good. But sounds like an idea dragged out too long. Big chorus though. Needs editing.
On 2 Apr 2012, at 11:24, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
Really expecting the Rammstein guy to start singing instead of Jaz after that synth beginning ;)
But its got a groove - is that not the Butcher drumbeat that Big Paul has resurrected?
Agreed, can see why its an extra track. But its still better than Fema Camp...
n
On 2 April 2012 08:17, Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at miljonmysteriet.com> wrote:
I feared that I would need to buy the entire album on iTunes to get New Uprising, but (at least in Sweden) it's available as a single track.
That's good (although i would have prefered it to be available as an extra track on In Cythera or another "physical" release).
The track it self? Maybe not my pick as best track of the album...
/Per
2 apr 2012 kl. 02.01 skrev Neil Perry:
> Liking this on first listen. Nice beat with a twist, lots of pulsing keyboards,
> even if Jaz doing his growly voice. Its a real stomper.
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:18:51 +0100 (BST)
From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
Subject: [kj] Off Topic-The Fallen
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just finished reading a brilliant book by Dave Simpson about all the ex members of the Fall.
i think there were over 40 members and he tracked down all but 2
it became an obsession for him, and his mrs left him.
warning for us all there
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:20:46 +0100 (BST)
From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
Subject: [kj] 2012 arrived
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i like the artwork now i see it on cd.
unsane arrived as well, first two tracks better than the whole of the shit ministry album,listen to rest later
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:28:17 +0200
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
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Anyone heard Penny Drops on the In Cythera single?
n
On 2 April 2012 16:09, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> http://www.youtube-mp3.org/
>
>
> piece o piss.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Life is like a movie,if you've sat through more than half of it and its
> sucked every second so far,it probably isn't gonna get great right at the
> end and make it all worthwhile.
> No
> one should blame you for walking out early.
>
>
>
>
>
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> From: kjlist at live.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 08:36:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising: convert to Mp3?
>
>
> Does anyone have the ability to convert this to Mp3 (as opposed to itunes
> Mp4) and make available through the usual channels?
>
> It would be much appreciated. I will buy the track eventually, I promise...
> ------------------------------
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:36:23 +0100
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] New Uprising
>
> Why wasn't it an extra track on the vinyl or summat?
>
> It's good. But sounds like an idea dragged out too long. Big chorus
> though. Needs editing.
>
> On 2 Apr 2012, at 11:24, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Really expecting the Rammstein guy to start singing instead of Jaz after
> that synth beginning ;)
>
> But its got a groove - is that not the Butcher drumbeat that Big Paul has
> resurrected?
>
> Agreed, can see why its an extra track. But its still better than Fema
> Camp...
>
> n
>
> On 2 April 2012 08:17, Per G Olsson <Per.G.Olsson at miljonmysteriet.com>wrote:
>
> I feared that I would need to buy the entire album on iTunes to get
> New Uprising, but (at least in Sweden) it's available as a single track.
>
> That's good (although i would have prefered it to be available as
> an extra track on In Cythera or another "physical" release).
>
> The track it self? Maybe not my pick as best track of the album...
>
> /Per
>
>
> 2 apr 2012 kl. 02.01 skrev Neil Perry:
>
> > Liking this on first listen. Nice beat with a twist, lots of pulsing
> keyboards,
> > even if Jaz doing his growly voice. Its a real stomper.
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Devacor at aol.com
Subject: [kj] Jaz Coleman talks- FEMA CAMP
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I feel (well not just me) that we have this unconscious built in sense of
the need to feel secure. for lack of a better example, like a gag reflex-
its just built in- we need to be safe and don't want to feel we aren't on
solid footing.
When people ignore and/or shlub off certain topics or give things this
tidy, convenient little 'conspiracy theory' tag (without fully investigating
a topic themselves) then (to me) I chalk it up to the need to keep
secure/"built in gag reflex', which is natural.
As mentioned before, my guru, when he worked at the U.N., worked
alongside these power elite groups that many people chalk up to as 'conspiracy
theory'- In fact they very much wanted him to join. This is a man who probably
never told a lie or trumped anything up in his life. Believe me.
I also consulted with a high level Bush aide who confirmed the same
thing. I mean the reason we even had a line of communication was he knew I knew
how things 'worked'
So point of bringing that up, is that there really is something to the
whole "Power Elite', and there really are groups such as the "Illuminati"
and there is something to their agendas.
Now nothing was ever brought up from these 2 people mentioned above
specifically about "Fema Camps" but it definitely was confirmed that much of
this one world government, fascist power elite world system and the steps it
takes to put it in place, was definitely confirmed. And also Bohemian
Grove and similar things and their beyond shadowy shady things that go on, was
confirmed also (by first hand knowledge)
Now given what I just said, and the 'Fema Camp' topic- for one thing, its
really a bit of an "upstream" sort of topic. Not just something you plop
down on someone-- Not to be explained in 30 seconds or less. If I had to
explain it out I'd have to get into many other topics before even bringing it
up. So without the various supporting legs of it, I can see how most people
go 'uh yeah ok...'
But as a point of reference, take that recap of the story I did on the
raw milk guy-- Now that's only one person, but that was way outrageous and
drew some similarities to the fema camp model.
Now why rain all that fury on some guy spearheading a raw milk group?
Because its pushing up against one of the legs of this controlled environment
one world government system.
This is what I do ( i mean my field and my research) and I really do feel
the govt (and beyond) are trying to take total control of the food system,
(and for a few reasons I feel they want to)-- and this is no stretch to feel
the way and can be explained out. I won't get into specifics here- but
you see how they treated someone who posed a real threat to what they are
trying to accomplish. but what if you had 10, 20, 50,000 of these guys/gals,
where not only did you have greater #'s of bodies/people to deal with and
contain but a greater collective effort and network?
Personally I never felt that the FEMA camps were solely
there for nefarious reasons. But that doesn't mean they couldn't be used
for that- they don't have to be just one or the other-
I do firmly believe (and confirmed during talks by above mentioned
people) that there could be situations in future where for furthering this new
world management agenda there could be some 'growing pains' stages and there
could be portions of the population expressing extreme discontent- I also
don't like this NDAA bill and what that could imply (although I knew it was
coming) -- so sure I could see them needing containment centers in place as
a 'cool out zone' -- which the whole thing being 'uncool' (an
understatement) and I guess I could see people equating the scenario as "concentration
camps", although I feel that's an apples and oranges sort of thing.
So people taking the situation and running with it (as in all these
youtube videos and KJ song) and some Yahoo sorts who fixate on it and it given
the generic 'conspiracy theory' stamp, doesn't make the underlying
situation I mentioned go away - and understanding that, its not hard to see a
potential
for such camps/containment center possibly being needed in the future.
So my feeling is that I personally wouldn't just go say "yeah go to
youtube and watch a few fema camp videos" as a way to explain the situation (as
Jaz mentioned in his song explanation) I feel that understanding the
potential of it (even in a hopped up sort of way) is more 'realistic" then just
thinking its all made out of hype and paranoia.
and so im glad and proud that jaz/kj did the song- even though Im still
having to let the song grow on me, but that's another story...
Adam
In a message dated 3/30/2012 5:34:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
65snoopy at gmail.com writes:
Ah boy, this one is going to run and run!
If you check some of the conspiracy websites, yes, some people believe
these
'camps' are for killing people. The woman who started this whole farce 17
years
ago by making the documentary about the train-repair facility - and a
video people
are still taking seriously - believed the camp was for the purpose of
extermination.
Yes people being rounded up, taken from their homes and put in camps is
scary...
if it was going to happen. Which it isn't, because this entire thing is a
conspiracy
theory that only exists in the minds of the paranoid.
n
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