[kj] Re OT The Cure

andrew scott brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Mon May 9 10:28:53 EDT 2011


Yeah The Cure were amazing, loved them more than K Joke in the eighties & I would agree that live-wise the shows at Wembley in 1989 were the last time I was over the moon.  However I think The Wish LP (1992) was superb & also accompanying B-Sides.  Also check out the 2004 LP, is not bad at all.  4:13 & Wild Mood Swings are the nadirs, although I thought the 13TH was a superb track. 


The Fungus Moth.
 
Challenging the Future.

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heehaw


On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>wrote:


> How timely of them.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On May 6, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Rheinhold Squeegee wrote:

>

> *http://www.promonews.tv/*

>

> *Killing Joke ?European Superstate? (PIAS)*

> Director: Digital Beast

> Prod co: Streetlight Films

> Rep: Y-i London

> Commissioner: John Moule

>

> http://www.digitalbeast.tv/

>

> http://streetlightfilms.co.uk/director.cfm?idArea=music&idDirector=66

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Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:48:24 -0700
From: "Dominico C" <dominicoc at hotmail.com>
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I would have loved to see 17 seconds performed live! Yeah, I like the early
stuff, but past 90, they started to go down hill...

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Nothing from Pornography. Shame :(
First saw the Cure backing up Generation X..moons ago!


> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:44:47 +0100

> From: j at jlancaster.info

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] OT: The Cure

>

> I know there's a couple of fans on the list, especially of their early

> stuff. News just in: they will be performing a trilogy of their first

> three albums for two shows, and will be bringing back ex members Lol

> Tolhurst and Roger O'Donnell for the event.

>

> http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=35390

>

> Fucking great news as far as I'm concerned. Except it's in Australia.

> But at least they're filming it for the rest of us.

>

> Cheers,

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PIAS as in Play It Again Sam? Not a bad move.



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How timely of them.


Alex in NYC




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http://www.promonews.tv/

Killing Joke ?European Superstate? (PIAS)
Director: Digital Beast
Prod co: Streetlight Films
Rep: Y-i London
Commissioner: John Moule

http://www.digitalbeast.tv/

http://streetlightfilms.co.uk/director.cfm?idArea=music&idDirector=66




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Last year I think it was I set foot in the pathetically commercial British
Music Experience, here in the O2 dome in London.  For Hugh was giving a free
songwriting workshops.  They would stock roadies-turds in the shop if anyone
was likely to buy them.
I spent 2 hours in the company of an army of Stranglers fans, mainly our
age, and a tall, think, very erudite Hugh Cornwell.  Real gent he was,
intelligent and interesting.  Funny too.  He answered questions and came
over as a man of substance.  At the end someone asked if he'd made a fortune
from the airtime Golden Brown got.  He laughed his head off and replied...I
spent it all on drugs!  I felt so good to be in his presence like that, just
sitting and appreciating the man without his performing.

P.






Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 19:35:04 -0700
From: BMeissner at encorehollywood.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Hugh Cornwell



   I saw that same show here in Hollywood CA. at La Cita a while ago except
we had the great Clem Burke on drums here. The show was excellent as you
said and Fish (bass player) was incredible ? he totally nailed ?Goodbye
Toulouse?.                     Billy From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Geoffrey ODonoghue
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:15 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Hugh Cornwell I saw ex-Strangler Hugh Cornwell here in
Brisbane last Friday night. His Australian shows have been in two parts with
the first being a mix of solo and Stranglers songs (probably more of the
latter) and the second part being the Rattus Norvegicus album in its
entirety. I'm a big Stranglers fan (in all their incarnations) but I don't
have any of Cornwell's solo material apart from his latest, Hooverdam, which
is a free download at his website.
Despite a low audience turn-out (making for a bit of a subdued atmosphere) I
really enjoyed the show. The band consists of just Cornwell, bass player
Steve (Fish) Fishman and drummer Chris Bell. No keyboard player (and no
backing tapes or sequencers)! Despite this they pull off the Stranglers
songs very well with clever arrangements that allow the guitar, bass and
even drums (I'm thinking Golden Brown here) to cover for the integral parts
normally handled by the keyboards. There wasn't a dud song in the whole gig
and it was quite amazing to hear some keyboard-heavy Stranglers songs like
Duchess and Down In The Sewer played by the trio.
Cornwell (turning 62 in August and looking very fit and healthy) still seems
to have his dry sense of humour and, again despite the smallish audience, he
gave a strong, professional performance. He came over to the merch stand
after the show so I bought a 2009 2CD live show (the whole of Hooverdam and
Rattus) which he signed.
I think he's been doing similar shows (all of Rattus and other Stranglers
plus solo) over the last few years so if you're interested I urge you to
have a look on Youtube (search for Hugh Cornwell Brisbane for example) and
if you like what you see/hear then go and see him.
I don't know if this claiming of his Stranglers legacy is a recent
development but I think it's great and only right that he should perform
those songs. I notice that he's even using the classic Stranglers font for
his name on recent releases. Good on him. Geoff
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Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:24:07 +0200
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Cure
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When Jez started working for U2 after the demise of the Mission (I think he
still does),
the first time he met Bono, Jez said to him: "People say you look like me."
Bono replied, "Yeah,
I keep hearing that."




On 6 May 2011 17:20, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


>

> Err...that should have read: "my friend Gianni", who was the friend I

> attended the show with. We were not, however, romantically involved at the

> time. :)

>

> As a rampant Mission-o-phile (or Eskimo, I guess), I already knew who Jez

> Web was (I'd always thought he looked more like Bono), so I knew soemthing

> was up. Also, it just didn't make sense......he was too thin to be Robert.

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Alexander Smith

> Sent: May 6, 2011 9:56 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Cure

>

>

> No. My Gianni was convinced, but it didn't make sense to me, so I

> didn't buy it.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On May 6, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Brian Whitehead wrote:

>

> > Did you think it was really Robert Smith?

> >

> > On 6 May 2011 13:19, Alexander Smith wrote:

> >

> > I was there. The New Ritz on 54th Street.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> > On May 6, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

> >

> >> True story: in 1987 The Mission were playing in New York. A long-

> >> standing Mission

> >> roadie called Jez used to do an absolutely spot-on Robert Smith

> >> impression and

> >> they decided to put it to the test. During the encore at the gig

> >> Wayne Hussey

> >> announced a very special guest and on walked Jez in Smith wig/

> >> lipstick/eyeliner.

> >> They then proceeded to do one of the Cure's big hits at the time

> >> (can't remember which one),

> >> Jez also doing a fantastic imitation of his voice. The crowd went

> >> nuts. After the song

> >> he ran backstage but was chased by some fans/industry people who

> >> wanted autographs.

> >> He ran into a dressing room and slammed the door before they could

> >> catch him, changed

> >> back into his clothes and lost the wig and make up, then opened the

> >> door. The people

> >> gathered outside asked if they could speak to Robert but Jez opened

> >> the door wide

> >> to show them he wasn't in there, and they must surely be mistaken

> >> (the room had no

> >> other door, or even windows). He then nonchalantly walked out,

> >> leaving a crowd of people

> >> staring totally mystified into the empty room. I don't think they

> >> ever worked it out.

> >>

> >> That's the only time I've seen The Cure!

> >>

> >> n

> >>

> >> On 6 May 2011 11:05, Brendan Quinn wrote:

> >> Ooh ooh ooh saw them in NZ in 2007, 3 hour show, was brilliant...

> >>

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> >> ] On

> >> Behalf Of Janean Lancaster

> >> Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 8:45 p.m.

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Subject: [kj] OT: The Cure

> >>

> >> I know there's a couple of fans on the list, especially of their

> >> early

> >> stuff. News just in: they will be performing a trilogy of their

> >> first three

> >> albums for two shows, and will be bringing back ex members Lol

> >> Tolhurst and

> >> Roger O'Donnell for the event.

> >>

> >> http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=35390

> >>

> >> Fucking great news as far as I'm concerned. Except it's in

> >> Australia.

> >> But at least they're filming it for the rest of us.

> >>

> >> Cheers,

> >> Janean

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Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:27:15 +0200
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Cure
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lol

And your memory is fairly astonishing - forgotten about the Wonder Stuff.
I think that was the same tour when Malcolm and Mick Brown had a fight
due to shenanigans over a girlfriend (can't remember who did what to whom,
or who slept with whom, but it ended in fisticuffs).

On 6 May 2011 17:22, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


>

> I still have the Mission t-shirt from the show, which was a ridiculously

> garish affair with purple flames and sparkles. I wore it a friend's house a

> few days later, and my friend's grandmother commented: "What a nice blouse."

> Don't believe I wore it again after that.

>

> I believe that was also the tour wherein the Wonder Stuff were supposed to

> open (but didn't on account of the Bass Thing leaving). Malcolm from same

> joined the Mish for a song as well (dressed in a t-shirt that said YOB in

> big letters).

>

> Alex in NYC

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Michael Garcia

> Sent: May 6, 2011 10:15 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Cc: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Cure

>

> I remember Wayne telling the story about it. Alex is correct. There's also

> a video of it floating around out there somewhere.

>

> Michael

>

> www.thor_recording at yahoo.com

> www.myspace.com/pleasureandpainmusic

> Skype: dragonfly_mg

>

> On May 6, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Alexander Smith wrote:

>

> >

> > No. My Gianni was convinced, but it didn't make sense to me, so I didn't

> buy it.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> > On May 6, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Brian Whitehead wrote:

> >

> >> Did you think it was really Robert Smith?

> >>

> >> On 6 May 2011 13:19, Alexander Smith wrote:

> >>

> >> I was there. The New Ritz on 54th Street.

> >>

> >> Alex in NYC

> >>

> >>

> >> On May 6, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Neil Perry wrote:

> >>

> >>> True story: in 1987 The Mission were playing in New York. A

> long-standing Mission

> >>> roadie called Jez used to do an absolutely spot-on Robert Smith

> impression and

> >>> they decided to put it to the test. During the encore at the gig Wayne

> Hussey

> >>> announced a very special guest and on walked Jez in Smith

> wig/lipstick/eyeliner.

> >>> They then proceeded to do one of the Cure's big hits at the time (can't

> remember which one),

> >>> Jez also doing a fantastic imitation of his voice. The crowd went nuts.

> After the song

> >>> he ran backstage but was chased by some fans/industry people who wanted

> autographs.

> >>> He ran into a dressing room and slammed the door before they could

> catch him, changed

> >>> back into his clothes and lost the wig and make up, then opened the

> door. The people

> >>> gathered outside asked if they could speak to Robert but Jez opened the

> door wide

> >>> to show them he wasn't in there, and they must surely be mistaken (the

> room had no

> >>> other door, or even windows). He then nonchalantly walked out, leaving

> a crowd of people

> >>> staring totally mystified into the empty room. I don't think they ever

> worked it out.

> >>>

> >>> That's the only time I've seen The Cure!

> >>>

> >>> n

> >>>

> >>> On 6 May 2011 11:05, Brendan Quinn wrote:

> >>> Ooh ooh ooh saw them in NZ in 2007, 3 hour show, was brilliant...

> >>>

> >>> -----Original Message-----

> >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> >>> Behalf Of Janean Lancaster

> >>> Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 8:45 p.m.

> >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >>> Subject: [kj] OT: The Cure

> >>>

> >>> I know there's a couple of fans on the list, especially of their early

> >>> stuff. News just in: they will be performing a trilogy of their first

> three

> >>> albums for two shows, and will be bringing back ex members Lol Tolhurst

> and

> >>> Roger O'Donnell for the event.

> >>>

> >>> http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=35390

> >>>

> >>> Fucking great news as far as I'm concerned. Except it's in Australia.

> >>> But at least they're filming it for the rest of us.

> >>>

> >>> Cheers,

> >>> Janean

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Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:16:54 -0800
From: Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT Numan for her pleasure
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Numan show on now !

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:49 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


>  who wants to name the Suburban Studs/Raven connection? ;)

> a free box of air, for the winner!

>

>

> ------------------------------

> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:47:55 -0700

>

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Numan for her pleasure

>

> I reckon this was awkward, considering their age at the time. One them is

> now a teacher, also..

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8m8u-V2Qw4

>

> I believe the B-side was a track called 'young power'. They're lucky they

> split, although Slam is an OK album...

>

> ------------------------------

> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:40:32 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Numan for her pleasure

>

> 80s!

>

> ------------------------------

> From: paulwady at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 20:52:27 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Numan for her pleasure

>

> What other lyrics do you think artists tend to regret in their earlier

> works?

>

>             http://www.modelaircraftmuseum.com/

>

> Autism also affects adults.

>

> Most are isolated and ignored

>

> Think. Act. Transform Lives.

>

> *www.think-differently.org.uk* <http://www.think-differently.org.uk/>

>

>

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