[kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF
Neil Perry
65snoopy at gmail.com
Wed Mar 23 08:04:19 EDT 2011
Anyway, that was a typo. It should have read:
Headcount are *fitter* than Stiff Little Fingers.
Hence the Kylie attention.
On 23 March 2011 07:34, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> Well, you've not exactly helped yourself old son!
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2011, at 23:02, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Heh, just found some recent pics of Jake Burns. I see...
>
> I'm not gonna get that record store day single now am I?
>
> On 22 March 2011 22:31, Rob Moss < <rob.moss at gmx.com>rob.moss at gmx.com>wrote:
>
>> Ummmmmm
>>
>> Seen Jake burns of late?
>>
>> Now. I ain't twiggy but.......
>>
>> Funnily enough I've never rated them!
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2011, at 21:10, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com>
>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Headcount are *fatter* than Stiff Little Fingers.
>>
>> On 22 March 2011 21:45, jon chapman < <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk><jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
>> jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Headcount are better than Stiff Little Fingers.
>>>
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>>> From: <gregslawson at msn.com> <gregslawson at msn.com>gregslawson at msn.com
>>> To: <gathering at misera.net> <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:12:31 -0400
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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF
>>>
>>> I actually think Go For It is a fine album, some great tracks on it.
>>> Never had the 4th album though--very hard to find in the US>
>>> I have all their 2nd incarnation albums too--pretty good stuff except for
>>> Hope Street.
>>>
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>>> From: <stronkle at hotmail.co.uk> <stronkle at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> stronkle at hotmail.co.uk
>>> To: <gathering at misera.net> <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net;
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>>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:34:27 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF
>>>
>>> first band I ever saw was slf in 79 on the inflammable material
>>> tour,cracking gig supported by the starjets (crap), like everyone else I
>>> lost interest when go for it came out but they played stoke on that tour so
>>> I went along anyway & they were excellent again, they were supported by the
>>> wall who were excellent too Sent from my Nokia phone
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pssyche23
>>> Sent: 3/22/2011 4:49:47 PM
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF
>>> I saw SLF at Glasgow Barrowlands last week & it was mental ... they
>>> played a blinder & the crowd was crazy. Jake could spend time with Jaz's
>>> personal trainer but his extra chubb did not affect the performance in any
>>> way. Brilliant having Ali McMordie back on bass with all his energy.
>>>
>>> Similar to Neil, I'd gone off them after Go For It but did see Jake Burns
>>> & The Big Wheel in 1986 & then my only previous SLF gig on St Patrick's
>>> Night in 1988 - exactly 23 years previous !
>>>
>>> With other school mates, I'd turned up at the London Lyceum in 1981 for
>>> one of those legendary Sunday night bills, only to find that SLF were no
>>> longer appearing - it was 27/09/1981 and we got The Damned instead
>>> (excellent) but also the then unknown Wall Of Voodoo - despite the bass
>>> player donning a Damned t-shirt straight off the merch stall, the crowd were
>>> not fooled so Stan & co got somewhat covered in lager and phlegm a la Aztec
>>> Camera etc ... such vivid memories !!!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 22 Mar 2011, at 15:39, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com>
>>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To be honest I mostly lost interest when Go For It came out (fickle fan
>>> wanted
>>> another Inflammable...) and only ever saw them once, around the time of
>>> Now Then
>>> (82/83?). Always cursed the fact I never saw them earlier. And yes Foxton
>>> would
>>> put me off!
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2011 16:13, Brian Whitehead < <bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com>
>>> bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for that, I loved SLF but didn't realise that. It meant nothing to
>>> me either as a 16 year old.
>>>
>>> Thing that annoyed me about SLF is the amount of final, as in last ever,
>>> shows they did. I hitched down from Manchester to London for at least two
>>> before I gave up. Turned me off SLF a bit.
>>> Another was the Bruce Foxton on bass thing. I'd be watching SLF with Town
>>> Called Malice going through round and round in my head.
>>> A guy I know was in the room when the sacked Foxton and told me is was a
>>> unanimous vote by the rest of the band as he was too big for his boots.
>>>
>>> Having said all that I'll be there at Manchester Uni next week.
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2011 14:19, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com>
>>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to go and look all this up again as I couldn't remember the
>>> details,
>>> it's been a while!
>>>
>>> Gordon Ogilvie, who was their manager for a while, was a Daily Express
>>> journalist (on Wikipedia he is a described as a "Marxist journalist on
>>> the Daily Express",
>>> which seems unlikely!)
>>> It was he who apparently suggested to the band in their very early days
>>> that they sang about
>>> the Northern Ireland troubles - and he and Jake Burns wrote the songs
>>> together,
>>> with Ogilvie credited for many of the lyrics.
>>> Of course when this was discovered by the music press back in the day
>>> they
>>> had a right go (god I miss the music papers), as this suggested that SLF
>>> were somehow not "authentic", or
>>> were being controlled by this shadowy journo character with a hidden
>>> agenda.
>>> All this meant nothing to me as a 13-year-old fan, of course.
>>>
>>> In this 2009 interview Jake Burns said:
>>> "Gordon was like a fifth member of the band. We wrote songs together and
>>> he took
>>> care of the day to day management. It's impossible to over-estimate
>>> Gordon's part in the band's story."
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material><http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material><http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material>
>>> http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2011 14:30, Brian Whitehead < <bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com>
>>> bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an ex-Daily Express
>>> journo"
>>>
>>> Really? I didn't know that - please elaborate.
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2011 13:12, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com>
>>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was looking for something else in a box of, er 'nostalgic' items over
>>> the
>>> weekend and rediscovered some signed postcards of Jake Burns, Ali
>>> McMordie and
>>> the rest, which I got after I wrote off to the SLF fan club around the
>>> time Inflammable
>>> Material came out, when I was 12 or 13 I guess. There was also an
>>> Inflammable Material sticker which I'd obviously
>>> decided was so precious I never stuck it on anything (it's not sticky
>>> anymore.)
>>>
>>> In terms of what it meant at the time, how much I played it to death and
>>> how it got me into so much more music,
>>> I think that album is my all time favourite record. I played some a while
>>> back and it
>>> still rocks. (And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an
>>> ex-Daily Express journo
>>> or whatever he was, and I still don't give a toss!)
>>>
>>> n
>>>
>>> On 18 March 2011 17:28, Rob Moss < <rob.moss at gmx.com><rob.moss at gmx.com><rob.moss at gmx.com>
>>> rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Just been asked to support SLF at the O2 Academy Oxford on Wednesday!
>>>
>>> Anyone wanting to go can come along for just ￜ6 if you email me for
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Now, better learn the songs proper!!!!
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