[kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

[Neil Perry]

Heh, just found some recent pics of Jake Burns. I see...

I'm not gonna get that record store day single now am I?

On 22 March 2011 22:31, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


> Ummmmmm

>

> Seen Jake burns of late?

>

> Now. I ain't twiggy but.......

>

> Funnily enough I've never rated them!

>

> On 22 Mar 2011, at 21:10, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Headcount are *fatter* than Stiff Little Fingers.

>

> On 22 March 2011 21:45, jon chapman < <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

> jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>

>>

>> Headcount are better than Stiff Little Fingers.

>>

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>> From: <gregslawson at msn.com>gregslawson at msn.com

>> To: <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:12:31 -0400

>>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

>>

>> I actually think Go For It is a fine album, some great tracks on it. Never

>> had the 4th album though--very hard to find in the US>

>> I have all their 2nd incarnation albums too--pretty good stuff except for

>> Hope Street.

>>

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>> From: <stronkle at hotmail.co.uk>stronkle at hotmail.co.uk

>> To: <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net; <Gathering at misera.net>

>> Gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:34:27 +0000

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

>>

>> first band I ever saw was slf in 79 on the inflammable material

>> tour,cracking gig supported by the starjets (crap), like everyone else I

>> lost interest when go for it came out but they played stoke on that tour so

>> I went along anyway & they were excellent again, they were supported by the

>> wall who were excellent too Sent from my Nokia phone

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: pssyche23

>> Sent: 3/22/2011 4:49:47 PM

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Headcount supporting SLF

>> I saw SLF at Glasgow Barrowlands last week & it was mental ... they played

>> a blinder & the crowd was crazy. Jake could spend time with Jaz's personal

>> trainer but his extra chubb did not affect the performance in any way.

>> Brilliant having Ali McMordie back on bass with all his energy.

>>

>> Similar to Neil, I'd gone off them after Go For It but did see Jake Burns

>> & The Big Wheel in 1986 & then my only previous SLF gig on St Patrick's

>> Night in 1988 - exactly 23 years previous !

>>

>> With other school mates, I'd turned up at the London Lyceum in 1981 for

>> one of those legendary Sunday night bills, only to find that SLF were no

>> longer appearing - it was 27/09/1981 and we got The Damned instead

>> (excellent) but also the then unknown Wall Of Voodoo - despite the bass

>> player donning a Damned t-shirt straight off the merch stall, the crowd were

>> not fooled so Stan & co got somewhat covered in lager and phlegm a la Aztec

>> Camera etc ... such vivid memories !!!

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>> On 22 Mar 2011, at 15:39, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com>

>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>  To be honest I mostly lost interest when Go For It came out (fickle fan

>> wanted

>> another Inflammable...) and only ever saw them once, around the time of

>> Now Then

>> (82/83?). Always cursed the fact I never saw them earlier. And yes Foxton

>> would

>> put me off!

>>

>> On 22 March 2011 16:13, Brian Whitehead < <bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com>

>> bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Thanks for that, I loved SLF but didn't realise that. It meant nothing to

>> me either as a 16 year old.

>>

>> Thing that annoyed me about SLF is the amount of final, as in last ever,

>> shows they did. I hitched down from Manchester to London for at least two

>> before I gave up. Turned me off SLF a bit.

>> Another was the Bruce Foxton on bass thing. I'd be watching SLF with Town

>> Called Malice going through round and round in my head.

>> A guy I know was in the room when the sacked Foxton and told me is was a

>> unanimous vote by the rest of the band as he was too big for his boots.

>>

>> Having said all that I'll be there at Manchester Uni next week.

>>

>> Brian.

>>

>>

>>

>> On 22 March 2011 14:19, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com>

>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> I had to go and look all this up again as I couldn't remember the details,

>> it's been a while!

>>

>> Gordon Ogilvie, who was their manager for a while, was a Daily Express

>> journalist (on Wikipedia he is a described as a "Marxist journalist on the

>> Daily Express",

>> which seems unlikely!)

>> It was he who apparently suggested to the band in their very early days

>> that they sang about

>> the Northern Ireland troubles - and he and Jake Burns wrote the songs

>> together,

>> with Ogilvie credited for many of the lyrics.

>> Of course when this was discovered by the music press back in the day they

>> had a right go (god I miss the music papers), as this suggested that SLF

>> were somehow not "authentic", or

>> were being controlled by this shadowy journo character with a hidden

>> agenda.

>> All this meant nothing to me as a 13-year-old fan, of course.

>>

>> In this 2009 interview Jake Burns said:

>> "Gordon was like a fifth member of the band. We wrote songs together and

>> he took

>> care of the day to day management. It's impossible to over-estimate

>> Gordon's part in the band's story."

>>

>>

>> <http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material><http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material>

>> http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/1377/stiff-little-fingers-make-inflammable-material

>>

>> N

>>

>>

>> On 22 March 2011 14:30, Brian Whitehead < <bawhitehead at gmail.com><bawhitehead at gmail.com>

>> bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> "And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an ex-Daily Express

>> journo"

>>

>> Really? I didn't know that - please elaborate.

>>

>> Brian.

>>

>>

>> On 22 March 2011 13:12, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com><65snoopy at gmail.com>

>> 65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> I was looking for something else in a box of, er 'nostalgic' items over

>> the

>> weekend and rediscovered some signed postcards of Jake Burns, Ali McMordie

>> and

>> the rest, which I got after I wrote off to the SLF fan club around the

>> time Inflammable

>> Material came out, when I was 12 or 13 I guess. There was also an

>> Inflammable Material sticker which I'd obviously

>> decided was so precious I never stuck it on anything (it's not sticky

>> anymore.)

>>

>> In terms of what it meant at the time, how much I played it to death and

>> how it got me into so much more music,

>> I think that album is my all time favourite record. I played some a while

>> back and it

>> still rocks. (And yes I know about all the lyrics being written by an

>> ex-Daily Express journo

>> or whatever he was, and I still don't give a toss!)

>>

>> n

>>

>>   On 18 March 2011 17:28, Rob Moss < <rob.moss at gmx.com><rob.moss at gmx.com>

>> rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Just been asked to support SLF at the O2 Academy Oxford on Wednesday!

>>

>> Anyone wanting to go can come along for just ￜ6 if you email me for

>> details.

>>

>> Now, better learn the songs proper!!!!

>>

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