[kj] OT: The Norwegian killer's manifesto (in brief)

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Jul 27 18:52:59 EDT 2011


That's pretty much on the money, I skim-read the manifesto for an hour or
so, the impression I was left with was amazement that anyone would care to
go over the document in all its detail, he blathers on about inane and then
shocking topics without changing gear.why he chose .doc vs .pdf, then pages
and pages about the different actions required to achieve various 'Knights
Templar' medals aka earning money for the cause, killing x amount of
traitors, using weapons of mass destruction. And then there's the dum-dum
bullets, the nicotine poison bullets.and every sort of WMD. There is
something in there about justifying taking innocent lives.according to him,
killing 100 people now is acceptable as it will save thousands of lives down
the track. Somehow.



While psychopathy isn't officially diagnosable by lay-people (there's a
specific test which uses multiple data points and their inter-relationships,
from memory), the one that stands out is complete lack of remorse / empathy
/ conscience. As evidenced by his look of smug self-satisfaction in photos,
and his comments. Most people couldn't bear to live with themselves after
what he's done.



'Without Conscience' by Richard Hare is a good read, he's regarded as one of
or the main authority on psychopathy, think he developed the test etc. (Read
it a few years ago)



http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/157
2304510/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
<http://www.amazon.com/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/15
72304510/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311806863&sr=8-1> &qid=1311806863&sr=8-1



Whether nature or nurture underlies their aberration is still uncertain;
they are almost impossible to treat, according to Hare, because they are
convinced that they have no psychological or emotional problems.





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of nicholas fitzpatrick
Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2011 3:34 a.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: The Norwegian killer's manifesto (in brief)



For anyone interested, but with no time to read it, this is a Comment by an
Economist reader who read the Norwegian nutter's manifesto. From the
Economist website :



You can read the manifesto here:
http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+European+Decl...
<http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+European+Declara
tion+of+Independence.pdf>
...if you have the stomach for it......
I've finished reading it about an hour ago.....and it's a slog.
The guy is an obsessive (the maifesto is over 1500 pages) narcissistic
(lengthy writings on steroids, fitness, diet, social standing amongst
friends), sociopath (well apart from murdering 90 people in line with his
personal ideology, read the stepmother comment) with delusions of
grandeur..(not only The Justiciar Knight Commander for Knights Templar
Europe...BUT...A Leader of the National and pan-European Patriotic
Resistance Movement, no less)
He informs us that his favourite cologne is 'Egoiste' (unsurprisingly?)
He wouldn't be too upset if his stepmother (of whom he is quite fond) should
be executed as a traitor for working in the Norwegian Immigration Dept.
His most treasured possession is his Breitling watch (I think I'll take mine
off for now)
He takes steroids and details his fitness regime and diet
He is a fan of the Pope, Geert Wilders, Putin, and Radovan Karadzic.
He considers himself the most thoughtful, social, and well adjusted member
of his social circle and includes critiques of friends and associates.
The manifesto is rather unstructured containing (among many other things)
A diary
Puns and humour
Detailed planning
Arms purchases
Bomb recipes
Cover stories
Childhood anecdotes
A personal and professional CV
Glowing assessments of his attributes and earning capacity.
Assessments of his personal sacrifices in pursuing his goal.
The beginning of the manifesto, stating the intellectual foundation of his
beliefs, itself is detailed, relatively coherent, and obviously well
researched (albeit from a singular perspective) and tries hard to emulate an
academic or scholarly tract.....it fails though...its a simple polemic,
nothing more...and waaaaay too long to be an interesting polemic.
The two glaring faults?
Well apart from the common mistake of most polemicists to cast an uncritical
eye over writings and reference material that supports his own perspective
he falls for the same mistake that was evident during the Cold War from both
sides.
He considers there to be a (yes I hate to say it) conspiracy of Islamic
Imperialism aided and abetted by a Marxist/Politically Correct/Liberal
elite.
Just like there was no monolithic international communist conspiracy nor a
western imperialist version...neither is the a Muslim conspiracy to enslave
the west. Regardless of whether one feels there is too much or too little
immigration, an organised conspiracy it is not.
Why the Western/Marxist/liberal/intellectual elite, whom he considers pursue
a permissive, individualist, anti-traditional society at the expanse of
conservative christian family values, would opt to aid and abet the
ultra-conservative, pious, and intolerant Islamic empire he envisages...is
never addressed.
There is no real insight into why he felt his actions on the 23rd would
benefit his cause.
I suppose that is asking for too much introspection and compos menti than
Breivik could muster



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