[kj] 2012 Tour dates

[jane.shadforth at shell.com]

Just for the record - not my quote below Nick... I don't believe in
pecking orders ;-) 
Without putting words in Paul's mouth, I think he probably meant that as
I've travelled a bit following a few different, I have a reasonable
experience to draw my views from. That doesn't mean they are any more or
less valid than anybody elses...

I used to live in Brum (1986-89), and loved gigs there at the
Powerhouse, Mermaid, Coach & Horses (which my housemates started gigs at
as a jamming session), Hummingbird etc etc - I forget the various venues
in Digbeth. Too many good venues went by the by before we left... I
think that's why Wolves became more of a regular slot on tours, with
it's 3 venues all located conveniently together - and generally well
attended & lively...

Wish I'd stayed out of this now ;-)


-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Nick Scott
Sent: 09 July 2011 20:36
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] 2012 Tour dates

What a strange mailing list this is, you have to "earn your right to
have an opinion", is there a holier than thou attitude going on here
about how much of a fucking KJ fan you are?!

Whilst my favourite gigs ever by KJ happened to be in Digbeth,
Birmingham, I have enjoyed all the gigs I have seen them play at in
Wolves except perhaps the last one when Jaz's voice was totally shot
on the Hossannas tour.

KJ have not played in Birmingham since the old Academy in 2005, which
has moved to a different site.


>From many concerts I have been to, by KJ and other artists, I agree

with Jane, and would add personally that any tense gigs by post punk
bands, northern gigs seem livelier.

I don't understand the "strange choice" of destinations though
considering KJ have played particularly on the Pandemonium tour x2 a
lot of the same venues as listed here before, and besides that one
date in Birmingham in 2005, have played Wolves predominantly in the
Midlands since 1994, guess they don't feel it to be a "strange choice"
and possibly actually like playing the Wulfrun Hall?

On 9 July 2011 19:14, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting points, Jane. You've certainly earned your right to have

an

> opinion on the subject!

>

> I've not been to that many gigs myself but all the KJ ones in London

have

> been brilliant.

>

> There are probably only two people who have been to more KJ gigs than

Jon

> and they are Jaz and Geordie so he's entitled to make a general point

about

> the strange choices of destinations in recent years and I thought it

was a

> valid one, admittedly phrased in his usual direct way!

>

> I've never been to Wolverhampton and don't have an opinion on the

place, but

> I do agree that it is criminal to keep overlooking places like Leeds

etc.

> Hopefully more dates will be added soon. (And hopefully the new album

will

> be ready in time for the tour, etc. etc...)

>

> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:44 PM, <jane.shadforth at shell.com> wrote:

>>

>> For what it's worth, my penniesworth...

>>

>>

>>

>> I like bands playing unusual places off the regular circuit, (hence

I'm

>> tempted with Scheveningen). The best place to see live music imo is

Poland -

>> the music fans really appreciate bands coming to play to them with

the

>> resulting tremendous atmosphere...

>>

>>

>>

>> But if we're talking UK cities, and specifically Killing Joke.

Manchester

>> has consistently been the best gig on all the last few tours it has

featured

>> - and I don't just say that because I'm biased ;-) I've always

enjoyed their

>> gigs in Wolves as well... and Notts

>>

>> London gigs don't rate as the best in my eyes - audiences are far too

>> reserved and hard to please, as they have the privilege of featuring

on

>> almost every tour schedule - unfortunately they have usually seen it

all

>> before...

>>

>>

>>

>> Jane

>>

>>

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On Behalf Of Paul Rangecroft

>> Sent: 09 July 2011 09:00

>>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] 2012 Tour dates

>>

>>

>>

>> Sorry, wasn't suggesting everyone going to these gigs was an arsehole

but

>> rather agreeing with Jon that traditional northern strongholds

shouldn't

>> keep being overlooked in favour of smaller southern locations.

>>

>> London gigs are the best but after that it's the big cities in the

north.

>> Geordie said Leeds was one of his favourite places to play and the

Newcastle

>> gigs I've been to all had an amazing atmosphere. Whoever has been

organising

>> the tours recently doesn't seem to get this.

>

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