[kj] KJ Drug
andrew scott
brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jan 24 10:19:02 EST 2011
Yes I know it well, I bought the darn thing! Good stuff as well, not really a duff track on there as far as I recall, not listened to it recently.
The Fungus Moth.
Challenging the Future.
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1. Re: KJ Drug (Simon Abinett)
2. Re: KJ Drug (Neil Perry)
3. Re: KJ Drug (Bo Krogsgaard)
4. Re: KJ Covers (Janean Lancaster)
5. Re: KJ Covers (Paul Rangecroft)
6. Re: KJ Covers (Phillipps Marc)
7. Re: KJ Covers - brand new cadillac (Phillipps Marc)
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:13:47 +0000
From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Drug
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The track Drug was released as part of a compilation cd with large booklet called Metallurgy.
Also featured Prong , Nefilim , Cubanate etc.
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 02:33:33 -0600
From: kain.crimson at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] KJ Drug
The other day I found one cassette where I had copied a friend's Mortal Kombat: More Kombat OST. After listening it for a while, I noticed a familiar voice amongst crunchy riffs. Some browsing gave more info: The name of the song is Drug and, apparently it hasn't been released anywhere but in that album. Is it true? I know firsthand that the Gatherers are rather resourceful... So, any info on how to get it? Thanks in advance. :)
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:37:09 +0100
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Drug
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Heh, I was the editor of that compilation. A journalist called Mat Smith,
formerly of Melody Maker and massive
Killing Joke fan, did the interview for the accompanying booklet, with Youth
if
I remember rightly.
That was Metallurgy 2 - we did 3 in total - but it was the least successful.
The idea
was to have exclusive/unreleased (or at least very rare) songs, but we had
real
trouble getting bands for that one (Metallurgy 1 had been much more
successful,
we got Faith No More, Kyuss, Sepultura, Young Gods, Helmet, for example).
Killing Joke was certainly the highpoint of that one - the only other tracks
of
note were Fu Manchu, Mule and Prong (and yes the interview featured Raven
in the same booklet as his at-the-time former band!)
Anyway the point of this waffle is that I *might* have a spare copy in the
box under the bed... I'll have a look and you're welcome if there is one.
N
On 24 January 2011 10:13, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The track Drug was released as part of a compilation cd with large booklet
> called Metallurgy.
> Also featured Prong , Nefilim , Cubanate etc.
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> The other day I found one cassette where I had copied a friend's Mortal
> Kombat: More Kombat OST. After listening it for a while, I noticed a
> familiar voice amongst crunchy riffs. Some browsing gave more info: The name
> of the song is Drug and, apparently it hasn't been released anywhere but in
> that album. Is it true? I know firsthand that the Gatherers are rather
> resourceful... So, any info on how to get it? Thanks in advance. :)
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:40:43 +0100
From: Bo Krogsgaard <bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:13, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The track Drug was released as part of a compilation cd with large booklet
> called Metallurgy.
> Also featured Prong , Nefilim , Cubanate etc.
I remember that. Buddy has it on vinyl.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:47:04 +0000
From: Janean Lancaster <j at jlancaster.info>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
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Killdozer did some great covers. Led Zep's "When the Levee Breaks",
EMF's "Unbelievable", Janet Jackson's "Nasty"...
On 24/01/2011 09:08, bongo wrote:
> butthole surfers cover of 'summer in the city' is also very fuckin good!
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> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been
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> I prefer their version of Ziggy Stardust as well.
> Julian Copes 5 O'Clock World is pretty brilliant & I like the fact
> he adds his own twist.
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> On 24 Jan 2011, at 02:19, fluw wrote:
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>> Bauhaus?s telegram sam is wholly different than t rex?s but it?s
>> the bees knees all on it?s own.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:14:40 +0000
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
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Covered by Geordie/Atkins of course (Damage Manual - 'Sunset Gun') as well
as Jaz on his classical 'Kashmir' album. You could argue Jaz has done more
covers than most in that sense.
In general I agree with Rob - not a fan of cover versions, with a few
exceptions. I quite enjoyed the Dead Kennedys tribute CD.
'Bodies' definitely a throwaway track by a band so in its infancy they were
a bit thin on material. The version has absolutely no musical merit
whatsoever and is really just of interest as a curiosity.
Occasionally bands/artists "make it their own", as Louie Walsh would say,
and covers can be good for introducing your fans to obscure older acts.
Not interested in hearing KJ cover anything. Such an original band with a
unique, distinctive sound.
'Primitive' bassline is a ripoff too, remember. Great riff though.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Janean Lancaster <j at jlancaster.info> wrote:
> Killdozer did some great covers. Led Zep's "When the Levee Breaks"...
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:32:16 -0000
From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
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There is a soundcheck out take of Geordie, Youth & BP doing a cover of
Good Times by Chic . . . I'm sure I have it somewhere
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Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
Covered by Geordie/Atkins of course (Damage Manual - 'Sunset Gun') as
well as Jaz on his classical 'Kashmir' album. You could argue Jaz has
done more covers than most in that sense.
In general I agree with Rob - not a fan of cover versions, with a few
exceptions. I quite enjoyed the Dead Kennedys tribute CD.
'Bodies' definitely a throwaway track by a band so in its infancy they
were a bit thin on material. The version has absolutely no musical merit
whatsoever and is really just of interest as a curiosity.
Occasionally bands/artists "make it their own", as Louie Walsh would
say, and covers can be good for introducing your fans to obscure older
acts.
Not interested in hearing KJ cover anything. Such an original band with
a unique, distinctive sound.
'Primitive' bassline is a ripoff too, remember. Great riff though.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Janean Lancaster <j at jlancaster.info>
wrote:
Killdozer did some great covers. Led Zep's "When the Levee Breaks"...
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:36:08 -0000
From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac
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They didn't put that bit in The Buddy Holly Story did they . . .
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Little Richard was jacking off while his wife sucked his 'titty'?
Whatever floats your boat...
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___Did Buddy Holly ever tour the U.K., or anywhere else in Europe?____
Don't think so, but did he ever tour! Check this out, from Little
Richard's book...an account by Richard that involves Buddy, Little
Richard and his wife Angel backstage:
"Buddy liked Angel. He was a wild boy for the women. One time we were
playing at the Paramount Theater and Buddy came into my dressing room
while I was jacking off with Angel sucking my titty. Angel had the
fastest tongue in the West. Well, she was doing that to me and Buddy
took out his thing. He was ready, so she opened up her legs and he put
it in her. He was having sex with Angel, I was jacking off, and Angel
was sucking me, when they introduced his name on stage! He was trying to
rush so he could run on stage. He made it, too. He finished and went to
the stage still fastening himself up. I'll never forget that. He came
and he went."
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Did Buddy Holly ever tour the U.K., or anywhere else in Europe?
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Greg
Brand New Cadillac is a Vince Taylor tune...Vince Taylor was a British
rocker from the 60's...Brand New Cadillac is not Rockabilly, where is
the "billy" (as in hillbilly) in that tune? it's just rock n roll. The
clash were covering that tune because it was one of the toughest tunes
on the UK charts when the clash kids were growing up. they had no
obsession with US rockabilly per se, it was just normal awareness and
respect that many brits had - a healthy representation of American roots
and rock/rockabilly music in their music paradigm since Gene Vincent,
Bill Haley and Eddie Cochran first toured there. that type of music was
just part of the environment, it never went away as it had in the
states, where it was completely forgotten to ever have occurred by the
mainstream. Hence Americans still have a gaping black hole in the
knowledge of their own music history
Joe Ely was/is not rockabilly, he Is/was roots rock and not the reggae
kind of roots rock as some relate to the term, but American roots rock.
Like Credence Clearwater Revival, Los Lobos, Marshall Crenshaw, Lone
Justice, The Del Lords etc. etc. etc.
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Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:43 PM
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The Clash definitely did covers as homages to originals--after all they
grew up in the 60s-70s, and were all into music. They loved reaggae and
ska (esp. Topper) --thus Police and Thieves, Wrong em Boyo, Pressure
Drop--and probably did I Fought the Law and Police on My Back partly due
to the lyrics, and b/c they could do great versions of them (and The
Equals, the originators of Police on My Back, were one of the only UK
multiracial groups from before the punk era--an homage to them). They
probably did "Look Here" b/c they wanted to play a jazz tune but didn't
know how to write one. And "Brand New Cadillac" (my least favorite Clash
cover) b/c they were kind of obsessed w/US rockabilly at the time of
London Calling (for example, Joe Ely opend up for them on a US tour).
PS THat Anthrax cover of Joe Jackson is great.
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:01:05 +0000
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
Thing is with covers is that, at the time, you think your version is
great. I still think our version of stand and deliver is!!
But it's never good enough is it?
If your favorite band does a cover of something you have never heard,
then on a personal basis it can work. White rabbit by the damned is
great in my opinion. I hadn't heard the original at the time and still
prefer the damned version, no doubt others will hate it.
We have that jokey version of wardance but actually could do a proper
vocal and mix it better. But for what??? A bit of attention seeking
perhaps...........
Good a reason as any I suppose , in 9 out of 10 cases probably the prime
motivator. Maybe we should!
I always wondered why the clash did covers but on reflection can see
that some of their output was pretty patchy!! At the time though I
believed they were done in homage to the originals. Quite agree that I
fought the law was done very well
Covers for b sides is ok I suppose but I do recall being thoroughly let
down by that banshees covers album. That was a pretty wet affair
considering their original material at the time was pretty strong.
I should not like to hear killing joke do a cover though. the bodies
thing was really just throw away mucking about. But can you imagine them
doing it now? What would the point be?
A dreadful thought!!!!!
Yuck!
On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:38, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
Yes, the original Police and Thieves is better...I'm pretty sure
Maggie's Farm is a Dylan song--isn't the Specials version terrible
though?
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:04:12 -0800
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
I'd hear their (Clash) "Police and Thieves" after i'd heard the
original, and, oooof, I wish they hadn't, but I really like their "I
fought the Law" and "Police on my back."
Also, was the Specials' "Maggie's Farm" a cover?
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To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 9:56:32 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
I hate covers, but judicially chosen and creatively executed,
they can work. Look at the Clash's covers--a twisted yet still good
version of "Police and Thieves", a better version of a too-mellow ska
tune "Wrong 'Em Boyo" (slightly
different spelling on the JA version), a great reggae version of
an old blues song or something in "Junco Pardner", a differnt but
no-better-than-the-original version of "I Fought the Law" (the original
was great too), and
an amazing version of an amazing song, "Police On My Back" (the
original was by some biracial 60s group--name begins w/E--and Eddie
Grant I think was the lead singer and that song was an great example of
60s garage/psychedelic...And what about the great Specials' covers--A
Message to You Rudy, Monkey Man, Enjoy Yourself--any band that can
improve on jems like those are gods!
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From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:34 -0500
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
No one. I just want to hear original songs of The Joke.... not
cover songs.:)
~ LB
In a message dated 1/22/2011 2:57:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:
But.. who has Killing Joke covered?
Name some creative covers you think they should try, or
any artists KJ actually has covered?
I think they should cover The Rolling Stones' "Paint It
Black."
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