[kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

[Phillipps Marc]

They didn't put that bit in The Buddy Holly Story did they . . . 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 24 January 2011 05:39
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

 

Little Richard was jacking off while his wife sucked his 'titty'?
Whatever floats your boat...

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of fluw
Sent: Monday, 24 January 2011 6:05 p.m.
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

 

 

___Did Buddy Holly ever tour the U.K., or anywhere else in Europe?____

 

Don't  think so, but did he ever tour! Check this out, from Little
Richard's book...an account by Richard that involves Buddy, Little
Richard and his wife Angel backstage: 

 

"Buddy liked Angel. He was a wild boy for the women. One time we were
playing at the Paramount Theater and Buddy came into my dressing room
while I was jacking off with Angel sucking my titty. Angel had the
fastest tongue in the West. Well, she was doing that to me and Buddy
took out his thing. He was ready, so she opened up her legs and he put
it in her. He was having sex with Angel, I was jacking off, and Angel
was sucking me, when they introduced his name on stage! He was trying to
rush so he could run on stage. He made it, too. He finished and went to
the stage still fastening himself up. I'll never forget that. He came
and he went." 

 

 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 9:08 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

 

Did Buddy Holly ever tour the U.K., or anywhere else in Europe?
 

 

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From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 6:13:29 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

Greg 

 

Brand New Cadillac is a Vince Taylor tune...Vince Taylor was a British
rocker from the 60's...Brand New Cadillac is not Rockabilly, where is
the "billy" (as in hillbilly) in that tune? it's just rock n roll. The
clash were covering that tune because it was one of the toughest tunes
on the UK charts when the clash kids were growing up. they had no
obsession with US rockabilly per se, it was just normal awareness and
respect that many brits had - a healthy representation of American roots
and rock/rockabilly music in their music paradigm since Gene Vincent,
Bill Haley and Eddie Cochran first toured there. that type of music was
just part of the environment, it never went away as it had in the
states, where it was completely forgotten to ever have occurred by the
mainstream. Hence Americans still have a gaping black hole in the
knowledge of their own music history 

 

Joe Ely was/is not rockabilly, he Is/was roots rock and not the reggae
kind of roots rock as some relate to the term, but American roots rock.
Like Credence Clearwater Revival, Los Lobos, Marshall Crenshaw, Lone
Justice, The Del Lords etc. etc. etc. 

 

  

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:43 PM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

 

The Clash definitely did covers as homages to originals--after all they
grew up in the 60s-70s, and were all into music. They loved reaggae and
ska (esp. Topper) --thus Police and Thieves, Wrong em Boyo, Pressure
Drop--and probably did I Fought the Law and Police on My Back partly due
to the lyrics, and b/c they could do great versions of them (and The
Equals, the originators of Police on My Back, were one of the only UK
multiracial groups from before the punk era--an homage to them). They
probably did "Look Here" b/c they wanted to play a jazz tune but didn't
know how to write one. And "Brand New Cadillac" (my least favorite Clash
cover) b/c they were kind of obsessed w/US rockabilly at the time of
London Calling (for example, Joe Ely opend up for them on a  US tour). 
PS THat Anthrax cover of Joe Jackson is great. 
 

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From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:01:05 +0000
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

Thing is with covers is that, at the time, you think your version is
great. I still think our version of stand and deliver is!!

 

But it's never good enough is it?

 

If your favorite band does a cover of something you have never heard,
then on a personal basis it can work. White rabbit by the damned is
great in my opinion. I hadn't heard the original at the time and still
prefer the damned version, no doubt others will hate it. 

 

We have that jokey version of wardance but actually could do a proper
vocal and mix it better. But for what??? A bit of attention seeking
perhaps...........

 

Good a reason as any I suppose , in 9 out of 10 cases probably the prime
motivator. Maybe we should!

 

 

 

I always wondered why the clash did covers but on reflection can see
that some of their output was pretty patchy!! At the time though I
believed they were done in homage to the originals. Quite agree that I
fought the law was done very well

 

Covers for b sides is ok I suppose but I do recall being thoroughly let
down by that banshees covers album. That was a pretty wet affair
considering their original material at the time was pretty strong. 

 

I should not like to hear killing joke do a cover  though. the bodies
thing was really just throw away mucking about. But can you imagine them
doing it now? What would the point be?

A dreadful thought!!!!!

 

Yuck!



On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:38, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

	Yes, the original Police and Thieves is better...I'm pretty sure
Maggie's Farm is a Dylan song--isn't the Specials version terrible
though?
	 

	
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	Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:04:12 -0800
	From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
	To: gathering at misera.net
	Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

	I'd hear their (Clash) "Police and Thieves" after i'd heard the
original, and, oooof, I wish they hadn't, but I really like their "I
fought the Law" and "Police on my back." 

	 

	Also, was the Specials' "Maggie's Farm" a cover?

	 

	
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	From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
	To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
	Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 9:56:32 PM
	Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
	
	I hate covers, but judicially chosen and creatively executed,
they can work. Look at the Clash's covers--a twisted yet still good
version of "Police and Thieves", a better version of a too-mellow ska
tune "Wrong 'Em Boyo" (slightly
	different spelling on the JA version), a great reggae version of
an old blues song or something in "Junco Pardner", a differnt but
no-better-than-the-original version of "I Fought the Law" (the original
was great too), and
	an amazing version of an amazing song, "Police On My Back" (the
original was by some biracial 60s group--name begins w/E--and Eddie
Grant I think was the lead singer and that song was an great example of
60s garage/psychedelic...And what about the great Specials' covers--A
Message to You Rudy, Monkey Man, Enjoy Yourself--any band that can
improve on jems like those are gods!
	 

	
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	From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
	Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:34 -0500
	To: gathering at misera.net
	Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
	
	

	No one. I just want to hear original songs of The Joke.... not
cover songs.:)

	 

	~ LB

	 

	In a message dated 1/22/2011 2:57:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

		But.. who has Killing Joke covered?

		Name some creative covers you think they should try, or
any artists KJ actually has covered?

		 

		I think they should cover The Rolling Stones' "Paint It
Black."
		 

		
		
		
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