[kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac

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Did Buddy Holly ever tour the U.K., or anywhere else in Europe?
 



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From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 6:13:29 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers - brand new cadillac


Greg 
 
Brand New Cadillac is a Vince Taylor tune…Vince Taylor was a British rocker from 
the 60’s…Brand New Cadillac is not Rockabilly, where is the “billy” (as in 
hillbilly) in that tune? it’s just rock n roll. The clash were covering that 
tune because it was one of the toughest tunes on the UK charts when the clash 
kids were growing up. they had no obsession with US rockabilly per se, it was 
just normal awareness and respect that many brits had - a healthy representation 
of American roots and rock/rockabilly music in their music paradigm since Gene 
Vincent, Bill Haley and Eddie Cochran first toured there. that type of music was 
just part of the environment, it never went away as it had in the states, where 
it was completely forgotten to ever have occurred by the mainstream. Hence 
Americans still have a gaping black hole in the knowledge of their own music 
history 

 
Joe Ely was/is not rockabilly, he Is/was roots rock and not the reggae kind of 
roots rock as some relate to the term, but American roots rock. Like Credence 
Clearwater Revival, Los Lobos, Marshall Crenshaw, Lone Justice, The Del Lords 
etc. etc. etc. 

 
  
 

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From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 
Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 5:43 PM
To: gathering
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
 
The Clash definitely did covers as homages to originals--after all they grew up 
in the 60s-70s, and were all into music. They loved reaggae and ska (esp. 
Topper) --thus Police and Thieves, Wrong em Boyo, Pressure Drop--and probably 
did I Fought the Law and Police on My Back partly due to the lyrics, and b/c 
they could do great versions of them (and The Equals, the originators of Police 
on My Back, were one of the only UK multiracial groups from before the punk 
era--an homage to them). They probably did "Look Here" b/c they wanted to play a 
jazz tune but didn't know how to write one. And "Brand New Cadillac" (my least 
favorite Clash cover) b/c they were kind of obsessed w/US rockabilly at the time 
of London Calling (for example, Joe Ely opend up for them on a  US tour). 

PS THat Anthrax cover of Joe Jackson is great. 
 

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From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:01:05 +0000
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers
Thing is with covers is that, at the time, you think your version is great. I 
still think our version of stand and deliver is!!
 
But it's never good enough is it?
 
If your favorite band does a cover of something you have never heard, then on a 
personal basis it can work. White rabbit by the damned is great in my opinion. I 
hadn't heard the original at the time and still prefer the damned version, no 
doubt others will hate it. 
 
We have that jokey version of wardance but actually could do a proper vocal and 
mix it better. But for what??? A bit of attention seeking perhaps...........
 
Good a reason as any I suppose , in 9 out of 10 cases probably the prime 
motivator. Maybe we should!
 
 
 
I always wondered why the clash did covers but on reflection can see that some 
of their output was pretty patchy!! At the time though I believed they were done 
in homage to the originals. Quite agree that I fought the law was done very well
 
Covers for b sides is ok I suppose but I do recall being thoroughly let down by 
that banshees covers album. That was a pretty wet affair considering their 
original material at the time was pretty strong. 
 
I should not like to hear killing joke do a cover  though. the bodies thing was 
really just throw away mucking about. But can you imagine them doing it now? 
What would the point be?
A dreadful thought!!!!!
 
Yuck!


On 23 Jan 2011, at 21:38, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
Yes, the original Police and Thieves is better...I'm pretty sure Maggie's Farm 
is a Dylan song--isn't the Specials version terrible though?

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>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:04:12 -0800

>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

>I'd hear their (Clash) "Police and Thieves" after i'd heard the original, 

>and, oooof, I wish they hadn't, but I really like their "I fought the Law" and 

>"Police on my back." 

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>Also, was the Specials' "Maggie's Farm" a cover?

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>From:GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 9:56:32 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

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>I hate covers, but judicially chosen and creatively executed, they can work. 

>Look at the Clash's covers--a twisted yet still good version of "Police and 

>Thieves", a better version of a too-mellow ska tune "Wrong 'Em Boyo" (slightly

>different spelling on the JA version), a great reggae version of an old blues 

>song or something in "Junco Pardner", a differnt but no-better-than-the-original 

>version of "I Fought the Law" (the original was great too), and

>an amazing version of an amazing song, "Police On My Back" (the original was by 

>some biracial 60s group--name begins w/E--and Eddie Grant I think was the lead 

>singer and that song was an great example of 60s garage/psychedelic...And what 

>about the great Specials' covers--A Message to You Rudy, Monkey Man, Enjoy 

>Yourself--any band that can improve on jems like those are gods!

> 

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>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

>Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:34 -0500

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Covers

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>No one. I just want to hear original songs of The Joke.... not cover songs.:)

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>~ LB

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>In a message dated 1/22/2011 2:57:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 

>saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

>But.. who has Killing Joke covered?

>>Name some creative covers you think they should try, or any artists KJ actually 

>>has covered?

>> 

>>I think they should cover The Rolling Stones' "Paint It Black."

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