[kj] to play them live or not to play them live

Wessidetempest wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 21 09:51:28 EST 2011


They played ESS in NYC and Pontiac and it was great. They dumped In Excelsis by Pontiac. They played it fine in NYC but youth kind Peter Brady (ala time to change/puberty song) the vocals.
Some of their songs won't work live. You can tell on each record which ones were written and tested in a working living band scenario. First three. EDaVRE and Hosannas.
Where as the rest have a studio vibe to it.
Hard to explain. Maybe it's because I've been in bands in those scenarios and pick up on it.

Chris



On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Michael Garcia <sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com> wrote:


> They played ESS the last two nights of the US tour and it sounded great both nights. I think it took jaz a bit to get the live feel for it during the course of the tour though

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> On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:55 PM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

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>> I saw a youtube of ESS from the recent tour and it sounded like Jaz was struggling to sing it and hit the notes (he sounded like he needed

>> a lozenge). Maybe that same was true of Raven King--just hard to hit those (high) notes while singing every night on tour. Just a thought.

>>

>>> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:15:52 -0800

>>> From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] to play them live or not to play them live

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>>> That's it. They just don't have the fire that they used to in the 80s. It's what

>>> happens when you get older. Happens to every band eventually.

>>>

>>> There's also the thing that some songs just don't work when played live. When I

>>> saw them a few months ago, I actually thought ESS sounded pretty okay. The song

>>> that really stuck out as one they should lose was Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove.

>>> Fantastic song, does not work live. It's a studio track for sure. So

>>> sure, laziness is a major factor. But there's also the consideration of the

>>> setlist. What feels good, what flows nicely, what gets people pumped up, what

>>> puts people asleep, etc etc.

>>>

>>> Leigh

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>>> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

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>>> They're just fucking lazy Jamie!

>>>

>>> They could all work but the pubs just too close by isn't it for some!

>>>

>>> On 20 Feb 2011, at 22:48, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> I was thinking about Raven King, EES etc earlier & how quickly they were

>>>> dropped from the set.

>>>> is it just me or does anyone else find it odd that a band of such caliber

>>>> struggle to replicate so many of their songs live & ultimately drop them?

>>>> It's not as if these tracks are overdubbed to hell in the studio & 'undoable'

>>>> live.

>>>> I would also wager that's why we keep hearing the same set over & over...

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