[kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 20 22:08:44 EST 2011



> My 15 fuckin' $$ weren't finishing the cd for?

   Sorry, that should say, "My 15 fuckin' $$ weren't worth finishing the cd
for?"
 


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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:57:40 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question


> ..alot of bad sound! The whole democracy production is flawed and it masks some

>decent songs. 


   I think there is a commonality there, that what both cds HOS and DEM have in
common is that they're sloppy,  and therein lies some kind of inadvertent insult
(to the listener as well?). Somehow it wasn't worth finishing? My 15 fuckin' $$
weren't finishing the cd for? Laugh, I did buy one!

I swear sometimes hoping in KJ is like for some people hoping in Obama thru all
the bullshit - but at least Killing Joke pull through in the end. They've proven
that they are worth hoping in. Here's to Killing Joke!
 
                       KILLING JOKE
         JOKE
         2012



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From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 2:40:23 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question


I do find the wall of sound a bit hard to penetrate sometimes. 

Too mushy. Layers of bad sounds do not make power. They just make alot of bad
sound! The whole democracy production is flawed and it masks some decent songs. 
I much prefer it now to when it was released. 
Still would like to hear Aeon with the vocals up. That is a terrible mix. 


On 20 Feb 2011, at 21:58, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:



> ..loved Democracy especially the layers and layers and layers of Geordies

>guitars

> 

>Exactly. It's layered like a sheet, a blanket, and a comforter during winter.

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From: Peter Moltesen <sneakypete at uwclub.net>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:51 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

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>I dug Hosannas out for the first time in a while a couple of weeks ago.

>Still don’t rate it very highly – a handful of half decent songs shine through

>the muddy production,

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>And they would have been more than half decent if they’d been half the length

>they were.

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> 

>I never could stand the glossy BTATS production, although the remaster is a big

>improvement !!

>Some decent songs on it, mind

> 

>I’ve always loved Democracy especially the layers and layers and layers of

>Geordies guitars

>   

>Peter

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>From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>Behalf Of bongo

>Sent: 20 February 2011 19:56

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

> 

>Hosannas may not have lived up to expectation, but it is still very

>listenworthy.. 

>just tweak the EQ a bit and away ya go..

>there is classic KJ in that thar album, its just let down in a few places

>(insert yr own pet peeve here), but on the whole, should not be written off, and

>not be put away and not played!

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>

>"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed

>indefinitely..."

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>On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, PHIL TOFIELD <phil.tofield at virgin.net> wrote:

>Im with Alex on this one, Hosannas is a terrible album, with only one good song

>on it and dire production. And Ive got to say, I dont think Absolute Dissent is

>a whole lot better.

> 

>BTATS is one of my all time favorite albums.

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> 

>On 20 February 2011 17:52, Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>HOSANNAS is a brilliant album!

>Geordie on top form and the last one to feature the great Raven.

> 

>Only one album worse than OTG and that is Democracy , so very dull in compariosn

>to the rest

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>> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

>> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:17:17 +0000

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

>>

>> Two words - "Judas" and "Goat".

>>

>> Darren

>> Hungerford , UK

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>> On 20 Feb 2011, at 15:56, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > Nope. Without question, HOSANNAS = the worst Killing Joke album ever (and

>>that includes Courtauld Talks as well). OTG may be HEROICALLY flawed, but at

>>least there were some fleshed-out ideas on it (however misdirected).

>> >

>> > HOSANNAS is bereft of song.

>> >

>> > Alex in NYC

>> >

>> >

>> > On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Wessidetempest wrote:

>> >

>> >> I do like BTATS but it is the most dated sounding release (not counting

>>OTG). And Alex I think someone put a roofy in your coffee. There is no way in

>>this or any other universe that OTG is better than Hosannas. As disappointed as

>>I am with Hossannas it at least has some of the best Geordie riffs ever.

>> >>

>> >> Chris

>> >>

>> >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>>wrote:

>> >>

>> >>>

>> >>> BTATS is worth re-discovering, I'd suggest, especially the re-release. OTG,

>>meanwhile, remains as bad as you remember it (but it's still better than

>>HOSANNAS).

>> >>>

>> >>> Alex in NYC

>> >>>

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>> >>> On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dominico C wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> OTG is crap, and BTATS I did honestly listen to 20 years ago, but not any

>>more. OTG and BTATS are the only 2 albums I don't own...

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