[kj] [kHz] (no subject) Hypothetical question

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Sun Feb 20 10:34:17 EST 2011



BTATS is worth re-discovering, I'd suggest, especially the re-release.
OTG, meanwhile, remains as bad as you remember it (but it's still
better than HOSANNAS).

Alex in NYC


On Feb 19, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Dominico C wrote:


> OTG is crap, and BTATS I did honestly listen to 20 years ago, but

> not any more. OTG and BTATS are the only 2 albums I don't own...

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> 1. Re: (no subject) Hypothetical question (folk devil)

> 2. Re: (no subject) Hypothetical question (Paul Rangecroft)

> 3. Re: (no subject) Hypothetical question (GREG SLAWSON)

> 4. Re: OT -- 9%... 10%... (Karen Weil)

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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:33:35 -0800

> From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) Hypothetical question

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> So, what constitutes KJ?

> The bassist and drummer seem to be allowed to rotatate/revolve, but

> the Singer and Guitar cannot.

> Is KJ Jaz and Geordie only?

> Personally, I say no. KJ is the sum of the whole, hence those dodgy

> albums every now and then

> In fact, the dodgiest album of all being released by just Jaz and

> Geordie. ;)

>

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>> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:10:46 +0000

>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

>>

>> only my brain.alec empire as a replacement if jaz pegged it but its

>> a hypothetical situation as killing joke would be dead.

>>

>> murder inc was pretty good apart from that scottish twat but along

>> with damage manual geordie wasted too many good riffs which is

>> highly apparent when we get tracs like implosion and this world hell

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> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) Hypothetical question

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Yes, KJ is Kevin & Jeremy. OTG is a red herring - a Jaz solo album

> that

> Geordie agreed to do because it was real to Jaz at the time. Don't be

> fooled. There's an interview somewhere where Geordie says words to

> that

> effect but that he knew it was "cheesy shit". I think E'G wanted it

> released

> as KJ to sell more copies. (Not 100% sure about that - maybe someone

> can

> confirm/refute?) Early Extremities gigs were classics KJ - no Youth,

> Raven

> or Big Paul. No doubt about that. They are desirable but not essential

> elements. Murder Inc had four KJ members but was not KJ to my ears.

> Too

> industrial, as Jaz himself observed at the time.

>

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

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>> So, what constitutes KJ?

>> The bassist and drummer seem to be allowed to rotatate/revolve, but

>> the

>> Singer and Guitar cannot.

>> Is KJ Jaz and Geordie only?

>> Personally, I say no. KJ is the sum of the whole, hence those dodgy

>> albums

>> every now and then

>> In fact, the dodgiest album of all being released by just Jaz and

>> Geordie.

>> ;)

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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:13:04 -0500

> From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) Hypothetical question

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> KJ are not the first band, or the first punk band, or the first

> great punk band, to have replacement drummers and bass players--

> think Buzzcocks, current Gang of Four,

> and what about Stiff Little Fingers, which for years was just Jake

> (and of course the Jam bass player, which made them even better).

>

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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:10:12 +0000

> From: paul.rangecroft at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) Hypothetical question

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> Yes, KJ is Kevin & Jeremy. OTG is a red herring - a Jaz solo album

> that Geordie agreed to do because it was real to Jaz at the time.

> Don't be fooled. There's an interview somewhere where Geordie says

> words to that effect but that he knew it was "cheesy shit". I think

> E'G wanted it released as KJ to sell more copies. (Not 100% sure

> about that - maybe someone can confirm/refute?) Early Extremities

> gigs were classics KJ - no Youth, Raven or Big Paul. No doubt about

> that. They are desirable but not essential elements. Murder Inc had

> four KJ members but was not KJ to my ears. Too industrial, as Jaz

> himself observed at the time.

>

>

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>

> So, what constitutes KJ?

> The bassist and drummer seem to be allowed to rotatate/revolve, but

> the Singer and Guitar cannot.

> Is KJ Jaz and Geordie only?

> Personally, I say no. KJ is the sum of the whole, hence those dodgy

> albums every now and then

> In fact, the dodgiest album of all being released by just Jaz and

> Geordie. ;)

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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:12:44 -0800

> From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

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> I know; sickening. Who knows what was going through anyone?s mind at

> that time? Hope the bastards who did it are punished severely.

>

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>

> k.w.

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ] On Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:24 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

>

>

> P.S.

>

> The latest news is that, on the other side of the egyptian coin, on

> the day Mubarak ran, a mob gang-raped reporter Lara Logan during the

> resignation festivities, also then beating her.

>

>

> How the fuck does rape even enter the picture when your country's

> just been set free. WTF?

>

>

>

> _____

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> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net

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> Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 11:48:34 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

> That?s a sharp observation, sade1. While no one can guess where

> Egypt is headed next ? and I genuinely hope it?s toward a more just,

> democratic form of government --, surely no one will miss Mubarek.

> He overstayed his welcome by a good 20 years or so.

>

>

>

> Karen W.

>

> SoCal

>

>

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ] On Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 5:32 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

>

>

> But the egyptian people looked anything but distracted. They looked

> very focused, and aware. Almost as if you could've pulled any one

> of them from out the crowd and they could have stated clearly their

> specific reason why they're there/what they wanted.

>

>

>

>

>

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> From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:18:23 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

> Everyone craving distraction. Revolt for distraction.

>

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> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:21:41 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

> Bread and Circuses come to mind

>

>

>

> Agree ? that goes back to ancient Rome, gladiatorial games

> sometimes lasting up to weeks, to keep the plebs distracted with

> violent nonsense.

>

>

>

> Same effect is achieved today with sports, television, tech gadgets,

> video games, celebrities and their antics, fashion and other trends,

> pop music etc (btw I indulge in almost all of the former, except

> fashion - I?m pretty much morbidly unfashionable - the question is

> how distracted you allow yourself to become?.)

>

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ] On Behalf Of folk devil

> Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2011 3:42 p.m.

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

>

>

> Some random thoughts.

>

> Now everyone is looking only at Egypt, where the 'people' have won,

> and now have the Military in control. :/

> What also seems to be happening is a systematic destabilization of

> the Arab Nations; Algeria, Tunisia, Lebanon etc etc..Could this

> isolate Iran? (more)

> Are there any 'real' factions leading these 'revolutions'? Bread and

> Circuses come to mind.

> One of America's biggest businesses is the Military, who sell to

> Egypt.

> Rumsfeld shook hands with Hussein. Obama shook hands with Mubarak.

> Cowboys and Indians. Machiavellian devices?

>

>

> What are others on The 'G' thinking?

>

> Yours truly,

> Cynic.

>

> _____

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> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:55:41 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

>

> There is a lot of serious talk that what?s happening in Eqypt is

> largely due to massive printing of cash causing food prices to rise

> everywhere.

>

>

>

> They?ve gone up something nasty in the last couple years in NZ /

> Aus. Almost $5 for 2L milk. Anyone noticing the same in the UK /

> US / Eur / Asia?

>

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> ] On Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2011 12:33 p.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

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>

>

> I like the progression of Moe Barak's positions throughout this

> whole thing:

>

>

>

> - Go home (or else!)! Go home now! (at beginning)

> - OK, I'll leave!, just give me 8 months! (til the Sept. elections)

>

> - I hereby proclaim to abdicate, ambiguously, forthwith!

>

> ~~ signed, (still)thePresident of Egypt

> (couple of days ago)

>

> - Ok, I'm gonna go out of town for the weekend with the wife to go,

> um, "charm the sheik" at Sharm-

>

> el-Sheik, just forget about me for now; I'll be back in a few....

>

> - Alright, if I leave (big IF), I'll leave my Chief of

> Intelligence, Torture & Suppression in charge. You'll be safe

>

> with him (I was). Be grateful.

>

> - Alright, alright, I'm leaving. Peace out!

>

>

>

> Pharaoh, hear thy People: go.

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