[kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...

[sade1]

> ..the retail investor has fled (finally learned some sense). 


What kind of trouble lurks for the retail investor? I'm running a small fund 
(online) for a couple of elderly relatives and I've gotten 87% return in 10 
months without anything weird happening or any other "things that go bump in the 
night". Should I expect a knock at my door (or a second cursor on my computer 
screen)? It seems around here, stocks are the only way nowadays to make any 
money.




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From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 7:44:58 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...


And that's with Corporate America sitting on a liquid $2Trillion in cash
 
Re US economy:
 
Cash - massive Ponzi scheme, every year it’s worth less and less. >From 2000 to 
2008 USD lost 50% of its buying power.
 
Bonds – what’s worse, holding US dollars now, or pieces of paper that promise US 
Dollars in 30 years time? No thanks. (USD depreciated 41% vs AUD last year) 

 
Shares – totally manipulated, most trades are now done by computers, the retail 
investor has fled (finally learned some sense). A few banks last year had 60 
straight days up in trading – statistically close to impossible amid the 
volatility at the moment. The markets are rigged.
 
            Google – “dark pools”  “high frequency trading” “SEC fines JPM” “SEC 
fines Goldman”
 
Hard physical assets are where to park your money. Almost anything to do with 
the financial representation of actual assets is tainted.
 
American banks aren’t using mark to market for bank ‘assets’ – if they were half 
of them would be under water. $2T in cash is irrelevant when the other side of 
the balance sheet is make believe (and the consumer, esp middle class, is 
stuffed)
 
An economy that can’t add jobs after 2 years of 0% interest is pretty much 
fucked.
 
US is waging massive currency war and complaining that others are. China is 
actually raising interest rates, raising the value of the Yuan, and encouraging 
people (via television ads) to buy physical gold and silver. What’s Obama and co 
doing…? Printing money, debasing the currency.
 
Chinese saving rate > 30%. US saving rate 1%
 
“BELIEVE IN CHANGE”
 
Good luck with that.
 
/rant
 
From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 
Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 4:21 p.m.
To: Gathering
Subject: [kj] OT -- 9%... 10%...
 
So here it is again from the horses' mouths.  At the highest level they are 
saying now that unemployment won't come down to a near(-but-still-high)-normal 
5% for another 10 years, with 6 years being the Optimists' view. And that's with 
Corporate America sitting on a liquid $2Trillion in cash = 50 million people 
working for a year. They'd rather buy back their own stock (to keep the gains 
and dividends in-house) than to put a commoner to work.
9% Unemployment Just 
Finehttp://us.mg4.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=1&.rand=5fgqj6vg891ik
And, 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110209/pl_yblog_exclusive/why-is-the-jobless-rate-staying-so-high-and-what-can-be-done-about-it

 
10% of the land is The Hand 
that pulls the strings... 
to have, to own, to hold: 
   money, property, assets - before lives
 
Green gestures..an endless debate
Why? Just to justify, 
             jus-ti-justify..this 'Utopia':
                                                 "Money is our business
                                                   Cash is our business 
                                                    These derivatives is our 
business
                                                     Lies! are our business
                                                      Business is our 
Business!!"


      
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