[kj] Broken Britain

[Janean Lancaster]

<<< ... but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford to heat their 
homes>>>

OK, well I'll be the first to say: "actually, that's a fair point... you 
may be right" - however those twats weren't rioting on behalf of OAPs.


On 12/08/2011 15:41, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

> Sorry to hear this Paula... but I honestly don't think it can be said 

> there is no poverty in this country. Perhaps not in comparison to 

> Africa or something, but how about OAP's dying 'cos they can't afford 

> to heat their homes, people having to eat crap cos they can't afford 

> decent food blah blah blah.  It IS there.

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> Totally can't be arsed getting into an argument with the (rather 

> depressing amount of) right-wingers on this list, not least because in 

> my 15 years of being on it I don't think I've ever seen the phrase 

> "actually, that's a fair point... you may be right" hahaha!  But if we 

> don't try and understand the reasons for things happening, we'll never 

> understand them.

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> I still go with

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> "Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it 

> of industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and 

> for corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public 

> money. Ask for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put 

> adverts everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the 

> things they advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse 

> people's ability to pay for them. Light blue touch paper."

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> that was posted the other day.

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> Anyway, I'm going to see Jerry Sadowitz tonight... he'll no doubt make 

> me feel better ;)

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> Dave in Edinburgh

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>> On 12 Aug 2011, at 11:25, Paula Cook wrote:

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>> I live in Ealing. The nearest the riots got to my home was about 200 

>> yards. I couldn't sleep Monday night with all the noise, sirens and 

>> helicopters. The next day, most of the town centre was cordoned off. 

>> I just couldn't believe the destruction. My hairdresser, beauty 

>> salon, corner shop, and all my other local shops had been attacked. A 

>> family member of the beauty salon's owner had been attacked trying to 

>> protect his business, his face a mass of cuts and bruises. Some 

>> people had been attacked in their homes and had to flee, their homes 

>> burnt out. Others had their cars burnt. Local people, including 

>> myself, were in a complete state of shock.

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>> I couldn't sleep Tuesday or Wednesday night because I was so 

>> frightened. I'm in my mid-40s, live alone, am 5'1" tall and under 9 

>> stone - and I only have kitchen knives to protect myself against a 

>> mob invading my home.

>>

>> Gatherers, no disrespect to any one of you, but I don't want to hear 

>> any more excuses and justifications for this behaviour. There are 

>> none. London is a city of opportunity. There is NO poverty in this 

>> country, the welfare state ensures that. Poverty exists in parts of 

>> Asia, Africa and Latin America; I've seen the shanties of Guatemala 

>> City, Managua and Panama City with my own eyes, they are shocking, 

>> nothing like that here. We have it very good indeed in this country 

>> compared with most other countries.

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>> I want the full force of the law to come down on those responsible. I 

>> want the law, for which I pay through my taxes, to protect me and 

>> make me feel safe again in my own home. 3,000 police for 9 million 

>> Londoners is a joke, we need the 16,000 we've had in the past few 

>> days to become permanent. I would like to see a highly visible police 

>> presence in London from now on, police have been conspicuous by their 

>> absence for a long time now. We need the authorities to come down 

>> like a ton of bricks on all this "gangsta" culture, hoodies and 

>> suchlike. I don't want to live my life in fear.

>>

>> Stay safe Gatherers

>> Paula aka Nuclear Girl

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