[kj] (OT) Remix . . .

[Dominico C]

[kj] (OT) Remix . . .


Naahhh, NO "BEAVER CDs" for me thanks"...


"Want to buy some Justin Bieber CD's ?"


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   2. Re: GEM label pressing history? (Cliff Livingston)
   3.  How About Martin Atkins? (Dominico C)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:08:36 -0400
From: damon cook <soundmagick at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Big Paul
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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ya i heard he has to restore the mona lisa know turn her back into a man?
put a beard back on her and shit

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


> As far as I know he just can't do the tour!

>

> On 11 Apr 2011, at 19:18, samuel rowe <samueldavidrowe at hotmail.co.uk>

> wrote:

>

> > Just to get things straight, is big paul leaving Killing Joke?

> > I'm pretty confused

> > cheers

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:37:54 -0800
From: Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] GEM label pressing history?
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hehe i grew up in New Brunswick Nj real close to th eJem factory,and Cheap
thrills record store had loads of Jem cut out records,for like 1.99 and .99
cents,loved it,yeah KJ records,i could'nt tell ya if they were worse than
the UK pressings,sounded ok to me.I even worked at a warehouse filled with
old cut outs and misc weird stuff,that was a distributor,they reissued
charles mansions record and stuff like that,haha.

2011/4/11 Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>


>  Knock-offs/Pirated/Bootlegs: No

> Inferior sound: Yes

>

> JEM pressed select import titles for distribution in the US and Canada. I

> usually ran across their stuff at those skeevy college record fairs where

> everything was $4

>

> ------------------------------

> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:55:21 -0700

> From: drretro at yahoo.com

>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] GEM label pressing history?

>

>   Thank you. Am I correct in seeing these were actually licensed

> pressings? When I was buying wax in the late 80s, the record store clerks

> told me JEM pressings were knock-offs and inferior in sound to the

> originals.

> J

>

> ------------------------------

> How cruel...and unimaginative!

>

> --- On *Mon, 4/11/11, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>* wrote:

>

>

> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] GEM label pressing history?

> To: "Gathering Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Monday, April 11, 2011, 7:39 PM

>

>

> http://rateyourmusic.com/wiki/Jem%20Records

> Jem Records

> <http://rateyourmusic.com/images/all?type=w&assoc_id=2006434>

>

>

> Jem Records Profile

> *Headquarters*: South Plainfield, New Jersey

> *West Coast Office*: Rosedale, California

> *European Office*: London, England

> *Founders*: Sire Records <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/sire_records/> &

> Marty Scott

> *Group Type*: Independent

> *Launch Year*: 1971

> *Closed Date*: 1988

>

> With backing from Sire 

> Records<http://rateyourmusic.com/label/sire_records/>,

> the New Jersey based Jem Records Company was created in 1971 to 

> manufacture,

> distribute and import recordings from Great Britain. By the mid 1970s, the

> distributor launched Passport 

> Records<http://rateyourmusic.com/label/passport_records/>and several 

> sub-labels to form the Passport

> Records 

> Group<http://rateyourmusic.com/wiki/Passport%20%20Records%20Group>.

> With offices in the UK & US, the company began bankruptcy proceedings in

> 1988, leading to the close of the distribution segment and the Passport

> group. A decade later in January 1988, an identically *Jem Music

> Corporation* located at 303 Fifth Avenue in New York City had surfaced.

> With a focus on distribution of "historical classical music", it is not

> known whether this incarnation was related to the predecessor before it's

> closing in late 2002.

>

>

>

> Jem Distributed Labels

> ? Passport Records 

> Group<http://rateyourmusic.com/wiki/Passport%20Records%20Group>

>

>    - Passport <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/passport_records/>

>    - Passport Jazz <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/passport_jazz/>

>    - Audion <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/audion_recording/>

>    - Import Records <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/import_records/>

>    - Important Records

>    - PVC <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/pvc_records/>

>    - Visa Records <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/visa_records/>

>

> ? Great American 

> Records<http://rateyourmusic.com/label/great_american_records/>

>

>

>

> Select British Labeled Titles Distributed by Jem in USA

> ? Enigma Records <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/enigma_records/>

> ? E'G Records <http://rateyourmusic.com/label/eg_records/>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------

> From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:30:42 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] GEM label pressing history?

>

> That is a good question. I only have the "Fire Dances" album that is on

> Jem.

>

> ~ LB

>

>  In a message dated 4/11/2011 12:05:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> drretro at yahoo.com writes:

>

> Hello all,

> I was digging through the vinyl collection, and came across some Joke

> 12"ers that were put out by GEM. The 80s rumor mill had it these were 

> pirate

> re-issues of import pressing. Can anyone fill me in?

> Jay

>

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From: "Dominico C" <dominicoc at hotmail.com>
Subject: [kj]  How About Martin Atkins?
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Damn... Would have loved to see Martin Atkins play this tour...!!

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   2. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
      a Variety ... (Devacor at aol.com)
   3. Jaz on 6Music now (Paul Rangecroft)
   4. Forget that (Paul Rangecroft)
   5. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (fatpotanga)
   6. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (Tabazan)
   7. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:33:51 +0000
From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?
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A real shame Mr Atkins is not on board but maybe there is still hope for the
future now the band know he is up  for it.









Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:41:30 -0400
From: soundmagick at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?

BETTER BE danny fucking carey or else im gonna start typing in mega uber
caps!


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
wrote:

OK got word that KJ will announce the tour drummer sometime soon,and i tried
to get Atkins the gig,butthe band already had someone in
mind.Cheers,CliffMonk





On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


I guess I'm a minority here, but I would rather he did not.
And true, nothing mentioned from Camp Joke.
The Pandemonium drummer, Dugmore?, held it down alright. Or was it a
compootah?



From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 20:13:11 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?




Steady on, he's NOT joining Killing Joke yet, and i very much doubt that he
will.



fucking shittinng hell this news about my boss MA JOINING FORCES WITH KJ
AGAIN HAS MY SOUL AFLAME WITH MARTIAN INVISIBLE THETAWAVES OF DRACONIC LOVE
LIKE BLOOD FROM THE MOUTH OF INFINITY OR SOMETHING REDDER THAN EVEN FAFNIR'S
SOUTHERN SISTER TIAMAT...


I AM STUNNED


FUCKING STUNNED


DC


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:23 PM, ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
wrote:

best news i've heard for ages if atkins is jumping on the stool. never
forget the stripey jumper spit and SHEER MOTION AND NOISE.

he helped picked the band up from the depths and  was part of them
delivering the best ever album of all time and the best ever gigs.

if atkins gets back youth needs to pass the flame on to........who knows



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your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and  speculation.

sure it made news, as it was a 'story'
But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an
understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his
stance
or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non  issue.
something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that  was
something else and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an  issue.
  I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on  him, and im
about in the middle on his statement- but to make it into  something else is
bogus.

A





In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth  BUT you
never give the Pyro the Zippo.

The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod for the pyro to  be given the Zippo
is if you want his Pyromanic  ass to have the Zippo, and of course it will
always be in a  way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized
plausible  deniability:
                              "What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd start
a fire -  again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the  same right to,
and the actual hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a  Zippo, like
everyone
else. (what can be wrong with that?).  I'm innocent."


And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news  shows, the BBC
tv news here in US, on En Contexto (tv), online it  was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,
Guardian, Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i  think it may even have
appeared
on Deutsche Welle news.
It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred  from the
whole mess that it was ever dismissed as a  non-issue.





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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:34:52 +0100
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Jaz on 6Music now
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0103qj1

missed the first half but it'll be on iPlayer soon enough.
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:42:31 +0100
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Forget that
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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She's just said he couldn't make it. He was meant to be picking party
songs!!! Probably just as well.
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:09:33 +0100
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your computer


On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:


> >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

>

> But music should be free man!!

>

> (the chance would be a fine thing!)

>

> [rubs savlon on legs]





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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:26:55 +0100
From: Tabazan <tabazan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
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Want to buy some Justin Bieber CD's ?

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:


> no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your

> computer

>

>

> On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:

>

> > >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

> >

> > But music should be free man!!

> >

> > (the chance would be a fine thing!)

> >

> > [rubs savlon on legs]

>

>

>

>

> --

> YAY SALE!

> http://www.iamscuzzy.com

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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:10:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
Length on a Variety ...
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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[BTW, if my earlier reply sounded pointedly personal, I apologize, it's just
that I use "you" the way those 'other people over there' use "one". More
appropriate, yep, but it's hard changing old patterns....)



> ..your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and

> speculation.

?
That statement, considering you are not aware of my knowledge-base for
replying
or the breadth of my awareness of the general issue of civil/equal/human
rights,
makes that statement above, ironically,?in effect strictly YOUR personal
opinion
AND speculation.? I'll assume then that all our opinions and speculations
are
worth acknowledging.


Also, Victory, like Might, doesn't equate to Right.? What are you implying
by
"BUT he won..." So? The?number of people who liked him over the other guy
was
NEVER an issue, neither in my comments?nor in yours. So I don't get how his
winning has anything to do with proving/validating/justifying/or-whatever
re:
his position on the?topics. Elections by definition are popularity contests
ONLY. Nothing to do with how right/wrong a canditate's positions are.

It's truly simple?the distillation of Randy's utterance: Govt. shouldn't act
out
its (meaning, OURS) racism in the public square, actions, programs,
institutions, similar-&-etc. but private individuals, initiatives, policies,
and
concerns (meaning, everyone, and everywhere else not covered in Civil Rights
Act
-i.e. the public sphere, not just "private businesses")?should be allowed to
make up their own mind on the matter, to follow whatever their biases beg
and
paw at the insides of their hosts'?chest cavities?for.


As he stated that he prefers it, one way they (the "privates")?would be free
to?make up their minds?would be for/on behalf of racism. He's against it,
sure,
he calls racist descrimination?" bad business" [an offensive and
dismissive?trivialization, to be sure] "BUT." Enough said.? How manymore
criminal or present-day-historical examples does one need to see that
decentralizing the protections against racism?and discrimination is both
giving
permission to, and a ploy to get away with, local bigotries to have free
rein.?
Further, making it a local/state issue takes the a victim's right of redress
further away from the federal court system and swerves it through the
local/state courts, who are all the more steeped in the local culture and
traditions that gave cause for such court actions in the first place!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo


And in case you're tempted to think I'm speaking out of my ass, so to speak,
well so IS HE! He says so himself! (2:03 of vid) Please don't hold me to?a
different standard?than you do him.

I'm just tired of bigoted pigs dressing up as lil'-innocent-"who, me?! Ah
cood
nevah..."-types trying to fuck the people the moment their trusting backs
are
turned.


[This is really a nice thread to pursue because it really begins to expose
the
truest, most curdling?feelings behind different sides of the issue, the
feelings
that believers will really stand up and die for. Or that "some" ("Earl Grey,
please; thank you.") will march in front of Barack, and his wife, and his
children,?the dog, and the Capitol by the
thousands-n'-thousands?with?machine
guns, assault rifles,?and clips -?and some really stupid signs to boot!]


?



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From: "Devacor at aol.com" <Devacor at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 6:24:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a
Variety ...


your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and speculation.

sure it made news, as it was a 'story'
But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an
understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his
stance
or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non issue.
?something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that was something
else
and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an issue.

? I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on him, and im
about
in the middle on his statement- but to make it into something else is bogus.


A


?
In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:
Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth BUT you never
give
the Pyro the Zippo.


>

>The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod?for the pyro to be given?the Zippo

>is if

>you want his?Pyromanic ass?to have the Zippo, and of course?it will always

>be in

>a way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized plausible

>deniability:

>???????????????????????????? "What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd starta

>fire

>- again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the same right to, and the

>actual

>hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a Zippo, like everyone else. (what

>can be

>wrong with that?). I'm innocent."

>

>

>And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news shows, the BBC

>tv

>news here in US, on?En Contexto (tv), online it was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,

>Guardian,

>Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i think it may even have appeared on

>Deutsche

>Welle news.

>It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred from the

>whole

>mess that it was ever dismissed as a non-issue.

>

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Owe a bout a barrel of Oil??!!



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support: (Darren A. Peace)
   2. Re: KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support: (jon chapman)
   3. The Mob, Zounds, Rubella Ballet (jpwhkj at aol.com)
   4. Re: The Mob, Zounds, Rubella Ballet (jon chapman)
   5. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
      a Variety ... (Brendan Quinn)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:12:13 +0100
From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support:
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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I'm not buying a ticket if there's the chance I'll not get to see KJ.

I'm buggered if I'm paying ?2688325 to see some fucking mimes and a
stabbing.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

On 10 Apr 2011, at 13:07, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:


> This sounds like a fuck up waiting to happen !

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> > From: antoni at clara.net

> > Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:50:01 +0100

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support:

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> > was discussing with Fuzz at the football yesterday - if you go into the

> > venue too early, they may turf you out as there will be a large queue

> > outside waiting to go in ... best advice would be to queue outside 90

> > mins before KJ are due on ... advice may be refined in the weeks ahead

> > ... that may just be policy in the smaller venues ... but if you don't

> > time it right you might not get in, whilst inside may be an army of

> > punters who care little for the band !!!

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> > Sent from my iPhone

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> > On 7 Apr 2011, at 16:12, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

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> > > They are apparently confirmed for Sunday, May 1, at the Electric

> > > Ballroom with Japanese Voyeurs as support.

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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:14:44 +0000
From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support:
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Looks like it'll be a camping job outside the ballroom - i'm getting in!
bring some vodka/coke and Marlboro i'll stay there all day.












From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:12:13 +0100
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support:


I'm not buying a ticket if there's the chance I'll not get to see KJ.


I'm buggered if I'm paying ?2688325 to see some fucking mimes and a
stabbing.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

On 10 Apr 2011, at 13:07, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:




This sounds like a fuck up waiting to happen !










> From: antoni at clara.net

> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:50:01 +0100

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ Camden Crawl date, venue + support:

>

> was discussing with Fuzz at the football yesterday - if you go into the

> venue too early, they may turf you out as there will be a large queue

> outside waiting to go in ... best advice would be to queue outside 90 mins

> before KJ are due on ... advice may be refined in the weeks ahead ... that

> may just be policy in the smaller venues ... but if you don't time it

> right you might not get in, whilst inside may be an army of punters who

> care little for the band !!!

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On 7 Apr 2011, at 16:12, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:

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> > They are apparently confirmed for Sunday, May 1, at the Electric

> > Ballroom with Japanese Voyeurs as support.

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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:53:03 -0400
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Subject: [kj] The Mob, Zounds, Rubella Ballet
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I went to see them at the Fleece on Friday.

Fantastic gig - one I'll remember for a long time!  Anyone else go?

Jamie



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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:22:07 +0000
From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] The Mob, Zounds, Rubella Ballet
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no,but i know someone who said exactly the same.............obviously lying.









To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:53:03 -0400
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: [kj] The Mob, Zounds, Rubella Ballet


I went to see them at the Fleece on Friday.

Fantastic gig - one I'll remember for a long time!  Anyone else go?

Jamie



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:21:19 +1200
From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
Length on a Variety ...
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Raising a host of a hundred thousand men and marching them great distances
entails heavy loss on the people and a drain on the resources of state. The
daily expenditure will amount to a thousand ounces of silver. As many as
seven hundred thousand families will be impeded in their labour



Sun Tzu, 6th Century BC



In the West a weekly wage of 10 ounces of silver was regarded as
good.today's spot price is around $41USD, meaning it's cheap by historical
standards.



That's silver, gold I'm not so sure about. I heard that an ounce of gold
would buy you a suit of armour in the ancient world...might buy a banker a
flash suit these days ($USD1475).





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2011 11:56 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ...




> Every fiat currency in history has gone to 0.





> Gold has been accepted as a store and value, and



> medium of exchange, and held its value for thousands of years.






I'm trying to get an idea of the range of purchasing (or of
purchasable/marketable value?) power of gold thru any given span of time?

I'm not sure if I'm asking this right, about gold, but - and I guess it
would have to be denominated in terms of some other article recognizable
over historical time?? - what is the most that any given unit of gold has
ever bought, and what is the least?



The closest (but not quite accurate) analogy of that that i can think of is
pepper: at one point in Medieval Times a pound of peeper was was worth a
pound of Gold. :~o  But now look how worthless it's become.








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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 7:34:42 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ...

Silver has gone up 420% in 5 years. Dollars are worth considerably less,
and falling drastically quickly, in my opinion about to fall off a cliff.
Commodity price inflation is outpacing wage inflation. Funny how there's a
term 'goldbug' but not 'dollar bug'...

I've found a lot of the best analysis of markets comes from goldbugs
(having spent several hundred hours looking into it and one or two dozen
hours a week ongoing). I share their bearish view of fiat currency, the
Fed, Govt, corporatocracy, sharemarkets.

Alex Jones lets himself down by talking too much shit, but I would never
lump him in with a turd like Glenn Beck. He makes a lot of valid points.
If you'd listened to him and invested in gold, you'd have done very well
so far...(evern better with silver). Keep your money in cash and you'd
have fallen a lot further than most ppl realise (because most people
belive the Fed's nonsense about 2% inflation)

Every fiat currency in history has gone to 0. Gold has been accepted as a
store and value, and medium of exchange, and held its value for thousands
of years. Unlike currencies and stocks, it can never go to zero. there is
a finite supply, and one day it'll be gone. There's no limit to the
ability of computers to create money by adding zeros...

Obama is a really bad joke, the sooner you guys ditch him the better. it's
not like he inherited anything other than a shit deal from Bush, but he's
just as bad. 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit, 14 trillion dollars debt, QE I,
QEII, mark to market abandoned, markets not re-regualted, too big to fail
banks now even bigger, no ones head rolled for the GFC, and the Fed in
conjunction with the Govt is the biggest Ponzi scheme ever.

The US is basically bankrupt, hence printing money hand over fist to
monetize debt. Retirees must be pretty stoked to be getting .5% interest
rates on the nest eggs they've worked and saved their entire lives to
build up, nice one Bernanke. But hey, old, non-productive people, who
gives a shit about them! They don't buy iPads.

/2c



> Yeah, I know he's a nutter, pretty much. (Oddly likable anyway, for me,

> though. - I have the Geordie attitude of "What will you do this one?"

> about

> him :) )) The "green" stuff isn't new -- permaculture, etc. But he's wed

> that to the survivalist/gold bug nuttery that is common currency on the US

> conspiranoid right, right now, thanks in large part to Glenn Beck and Alex

> Jones. Maybe he's unaware that's the discourse in the States -- insisting

> on

> hard currency is basically waving your Ron Paul/Glenn Beck loon flag,

> here,

> in line with having a hard on for the Federal Reserve -- but to an ear

> saturated in current US political arguments, it sounds almost Tea

> Party-esque, like waiting to demand proof of Obama's birth certificate.

>

> -0liver

>

>

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, <Devacor at aol.com> wrote:

>

>>    he's been talking like this the last 3 albums- this is nothing new.

>> and I don't view these quotes as 'right wing'  -

>> and don't worry when the rfid chips happen, it will seem like a keen,

>> cool

>> idea.

>>

>> Adam

>>

>>  *In a message dated 4/7/2011 10:33:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>> b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com writes:*

>>

>> *Wow. Now I understand the "right wing Peter Gabriel" part:

>>

>>

>> Jaz: There is no more gold. The money isn't redeemable by gold or silver

>> and we all know it. We've got a much bigger problem here which I've

>> spoken

>> about before. Basically we're gonna have RFID chips, and everything will

>> be

>> on them, so if you want food from a supermarket you'll just swipe your

>> hand

>> because they'll be implanted inside you, and this is the vision some

>> people

>> in the Anglo-American establishment have for the future.

>>

>>

>>

>> It's like Jaz Coleman has been watching a lot of Glenn Beck and Alex

>> Jones....  He's also ranting against unions in the interview. :/

>> *

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