[kj] How About Martin Atkins?

Dominico C dominicoc at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 11 22:46:07 EDT 2011


Damn... Would have loved to see Martin Atkins play this tour...!!

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: How About Martin Atkins? (Simon Abinett)
2. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ... (Devacor at aol.com)
3. Jaz on 6Music now (Paul Rangecroft)
4. Forget that (Paul Rangecroft)
5. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (fatpotanga)
6. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (Tabazan)
7. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ... (sade1)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:33:51 +0000
From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?
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A real shame Mr Atkins is not on board but maybe there is still hope for the
future now the band know he is up for it.









Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:41:30 -0400
From: soundmagick at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?

BETTER BE danny fucking carey or else im gonna start typing in mega uber
caps!


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
wrote:

OK got word that KJ will announce the tour drummer sometime soon,and i tried
to get Atkins the gig,butthe band already had someone in
mind.Cheers,CliffMonk





On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


I guess I'm a minority here, but I would rather he did not.
And true, nothing mentioned from Camp Joke.
The Pandemonium drummer, Dugmore?, held it down alright. Or was it a
compootah?



From: jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 20:13:11 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] How About Martin Atkins?




Steady on, he's NOT joining Killing Joke yet, and i very much doubt that he
will.



fucking shittinng hell this news about my boss MA JOINING FORCES WITH KJ
AGAIN HAS MY SOUL AFLAME WITH MARTIAN INVISIBLE THETAWAVES OF DRACONIC LOVE
LIKE BLOOD FROM THE MOUTH OF INFINITY OR SOMETHING REDDER THAN EVEN FAFNIR'S
SOUTHERN SISTER TIAMAT...


I AM STUNNED


FUCKING STUNNED


DC


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:23 PM, ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
wrote:

best news i've heard for ages if atkins is jumping on the stool. never
forget the stripey jumper spit and SHEER MOTION AND NOISE.

he helped picked the band up from the depths and was part of them
delivering the best ever album of all time and the best ever gigs.

if atkins gets back youth needs to pass the flame on to........who knows



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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:24:43 EDT
From: Devacor at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
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your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and speculation.

sure it made news, as it was a 'story'
But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an
understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his
stance
or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non issue.
something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that was
something else and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an issue.
I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on him, and im
about in the middle on his statement- but to make it into something else is
bogus.

A





In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:

Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth BUT you
never give the Pyro the Zippo.

The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod for the pyro to be given the Zippo
is if you want his Pyromanic ass to have the Zippo, and of course it will
always be in a way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized
plausible deniability:
"What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd start
a fire - again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the same right to,
and the actual hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a Zippo, like
everyone
else. (what can be wrong with that?). I'm innocent."


And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news shows, the BBC
tv news here in US, on En Contexto (tv), online it was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,
Guardian, Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i think it may even have
appeared
on Deutsche Welle news.
It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred from the
whole mess that it was ever dismissed as a non-issue.





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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:34:52 +0100
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Jaz on 6Music now
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0103qj1

missed the first half but it'll be on iPlayer soon enough.
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:42:31 +0100
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] Forget that
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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She's just said he couldn't make it. He was meant to be picking party
songs!!! Probably just as well.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:09:33 +0100
From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your computer


On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:


> >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

>

> But music should be free man!!

>

> (the chance would be a fine thing!)

>

> [rubs savlon on legs]





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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 20:26:55 +0100
From: Tabazan <tabazan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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Want to buy some Justin Bieber CD's ?

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 6:09 PM, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:


> no, no, I meant you should get a job in HMV & stop dossing on your

> computer

>

>

> On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:54, Tabazan wrote:

>

> > >it's sinful you're not selling music [slaps marcs legs]

> >

> > But music should be free man!!

> >

> > (the chance would be a fine thing!)

> >

> > [rubs savlon on legs]

>

>

>

>

> --

> YAY SALE!

> http://www.iamscuzzy.com

>

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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 13:10:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
Length on a Variety ...
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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[BTW, if my earlier reply sounded pointedly personal, I apologize, it's just
that I use "you" the way those 'other people over there' use "one". More
appropriate, yep, but it's hard changing old patterns....)



> ..your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and

> speculation.

?
That statement, considering you are not aware of my knowledge-base for
replying
or the breadth of my awareness of the general issue of civil/equal/human
rights,
makes that statement above, ironically,?in effect strictly YOUR personal
opinion
AND speculation.? I'll assume then that all our opinions and speculations
are
worth acknowledging.


Also, Victory, like Might, doesn't equate to Right.? What are you implying
by
"BUT he won..." So? The?number of people who liked him over the other guy
was
NEVER an issue, neither in my comments?nor in yours. So I don't get how his
winning has anything to do with proving/validating/justifying/or-whatever
re:
his position on the?topics. Elections by definition are popularity contests
ONLY. Nothing to do with how right/wrong a canditate's positions are.

It's truly simple?the distillation of Randy's utterance: Govt. shouldn't act
out
its (meaning, OURS) racism in the public square, actions, programs,
institutions, similar-&-etc. but private individuals, initiatives, policies,
and
concerns (meaning, everyone, and everywhere else not covered in Civil Rights
Act
-i.e. the public sphere, not just "private businesses")?should be allowed to
make up their own mind on the matter, to follow whatever their biases beg
and
paw at the insides of their hosts'?chest cavities?for.


As he stated that he prefers it, one way they (the "privates")?would be free
to?make up their minds?would be for/on behalf of racism. He's against it,
sure,
he calls racist descrimination?" bad business" [an offensive and
dismissive?trivialization, to be sure] "BUT." Enough said.? How manymore
criminal or present-day-historical examples does one need to see that
decentralizing the protections against racism?and discrimination is both
giving
permission to, and a ploy to get away with, local bigotries to have free
rein.?
Further, making it a local/state issue takes the a victim's right of redress
further away from the federal court system and swerves it through the
local/state courts, who are all the more steeped in the local culture and
traditions that gave cause for such court actions in the first place!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo


And in case you're tempted to think I'm speaking out of my ass, so to speak,
well so IS HE! He says so himself! (2:03 of vid) Please don't hold me to?a
different standard?than you do him.

I'm just tired of bigoted pigs dressing up as lil'-innocent-"who, me?! Ah
cood
nevah..."-types trying to fuck the people the moment their trusting backs
are
turned.


[This is really a nice thread to pursue because it really begins to expose
the
truest, most curdling?feelings behind different sides of the issue, the
feelings
that believers will really stand up and die for. Or that "some" ("Earl Grey,
please; thank you.") will march in front of Barack, and his wife, and his
children,?the dog, and the Capitol by the
thousands-n'-thousands?with?machine
guns, assault rifles,?and clips -?and some really stupid signs to boot!]


?



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From: "Devacor at aol.com" <Devacor at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 6:24:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a
Variety ...


your 'analogy' is just based on your own personal opinion and speculation.

sure it made news, as it was a 'story'
But he won his election- once it was explained out it, people had an
understanding of what he was actually saying- where one agrees with his
stance
or not, the sensationalism was taken out of it and it became a non issue.
?something like george allen and his 'macaca' flap-- now that was something
else
and he sunk faster then a rock in water. that was an issue.

? I'm not even saying im a Rand Paul supporter- im neutral on him, and im
about
in the middle on his statement- but to make it into something else is bogus.


A


?
In a message dated 4/8/2011 9:30:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
saulomar1 at yahoo.com writes:
Fire may be bad, it may be good, may be used to create warmth BUT you never
give
the Pyro the Zippo.


>

>The only time you wink-wink & a nod-nod?for the pyro to be given?the Zippo

>is if

>you want his?Pyromanic ass?to have the Zippo, and of course?it will always

>be in

>a way that provides such enabler overly-intellectualized plausible

>deniability:

>???????????????????????????? "What, me? Oh no, i never thought he'd starta

>fire

>- again. Nooo... I just thought he should have the same right to, and the

>actual

>hands-on empowerment therefrom, owning a Zippo, like everyone else. (what

>can be

>wrong with that?). I'm innocent."

>

>

>And the media did jump on it, at least the tv morning news shows, the BBC

>tv

>news here in US, on?En Contexto (tv), online it was Cnn, Msnbc, BBC,

>Guardian,

>Truthout, ReaderSupportedNews, and i think it may even have appeared on

>Deutsche

>Welle news.

>It got coverage, alright. And I don't recall nor even inferred from the

>whole

>mess that it was ever dismissed as a non-issue.

>

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