[kj] How About Martin Atkins?

[andrew scott]

My thoughts entirely, in fact as soon as he was mentioned I imagined good old twin drummer attack a la Murder Inc!! Not to forget the Glitter Band & the legendary Fall (twice) of course. Mercenery?  I did not think they were that way at all in 1991, quite the reverse in fact, fairly underground which was why it was so amazing.


The Fungus Moth.
 
Challenging the Future.

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   1. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
      a Variety ... (Brendan)
   2. Re: Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!? (Cliff Livingston)
   3.  Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!? (Dominico C)
   4. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
      a Variety ... (Devacor at aol.com)
   5. Re: New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
      a Variety ... (Brendan Quinn)


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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:34:42 +1200 (NZST)
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
    Length on a Variety ...
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Silver has gone up 420% in 5 years. Dollars are worth considerably less,
and falling drastically quickly, in my opinion about to fall off a cliff.
Commodity price inflation is outpacing wage inflation. Funny how there's a
term 'goldbug' but not 'dollar bug'...

I've found a lot of the best analysis of markets comes from goldbugs
(having spent several hundred hours looking into it and one or two dozen
hours a week ongoing). I share their bearish view of fiat currency, the
Fed, Govt, corporatocracy, sharemarkets.

Alex Jones lets himself down by talking too much shit, but I would never
lump him in with a turd like Glenn Beck. He makes a lot of valid points.
If you'd listened to him and invested in gold, you'd have done very well
so far...(evern better with silver). Keep your money in cash and you'd
have fallen a lot further than most ppl realise (because most people
belive the Fed's nonsense about 2% inflation)

Every fiat currency in history has gone to 0. Gold has been accepted as a
store and value, and medium of exchange, and held its value for thousands
of years. Unlike currencies and stocks, it can never go to zero. there is
a finite supply, and one day it'll be gone. There's no limit to the
ability of computers to create money by adding zeros...

Obama is a really bad joke, the sooner you guys ditch him the better. it's
not like he inherited anything other than a shit deal from Bush, but he's
just as bad. 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit, 14 trillion dollars debt, QE I,
QEII, mark to market abandoned, markets not re-regualted, too big to fail
banks now even bigger, no ones head rolled for the GFC, and the Fed in
conjunction with the Govt is the biggest Ponzi scheme ever.

The US is basically bankrupt, hence printing money hand over fist to
monetize debt. Retirees must be pretty stoked to be getting .5% interest
rates on the nest eggs they've worked and saved their entire lives to
build up, nice one Bernanke. But hey, old, non-productive people, who
gives a shit about them! They don't buy iPads.

/2c



> Yeah, I know he's a nutter, pretty much. (Oddly likable anyway, for me,

> though. - I have the Geordie attitude of "What will you do this one?"

> about

> him :) )) The "green" stuff isn't new -- permaculture, etc. But he's wed

> that to the survivalist/gold bug nuttery that is common currency on the US

> conspiranoid right, right now, thanks in large part to Glenn Beck and Alex

> Jones. Maybe he's unaware that's the discourse in the States -- insisting

> on

> hard currency is basically waving your Ron Paul/Glenn Beck loon flag,

> here,

> in line with having a hard on for the Federal Reserve -- but to an ear

> saturated in current US political arguments, it sounds almost Tea

> Party-esque, like waiting to demand proof of Obama's birth certificate.

>

> -0liver

>

>

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, <Devacor at aol.com> wrote:

>

>>     he's been talking like this the last 3 albums- this is nothing new.

>> and I don't view these quotes as 'right wing'  -

>> and don't worry when the rfid chips happen, it will seem like a keen,

>> cool

>> idea.

>>

>> Adam

>>

>>  *In a message dated 4/7/2011 10:33:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>> b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com writes:*

>>

>> *Wow. Now I understand the "right wing Peter Gabriel" part:

>>

>>

>> Jaz: There is no more gold. The money isn't redeemable by gold or silver

>> and we all know it. We've got a much bigger problem here which I've

>> spoken

>> about before. Basically we're gonna have RFID chips, and everything will

>> be

>> on them, so if you want food from a supermarket you'll just swipe your

>> hand

>> because they'll be implanted inside you, and this is the vision some

>> people

>> in the Anglo-American establishment have for the future.

>>

>>

>>

>> It's like Jaz Coleman has been watching a lot of Glenn Beck and Alex

>> Jones....  He's also ranting against unions in the interview. :/

>> *

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:30:10 -0800
From: Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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i think that was water under the bridge,after Raven passed the guys took a
second look,at it.they're mates,this could be a great homecoming for
Martin.I suggest they keep him on for the next recording,double drums !

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:15 PM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


>  Atkins/Youth. 'Strange' rhythm section.

>

> ------------------------------

> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:47:04 -0700

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

>

> Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

>

>  Yeah but wasn't there some infernally bad blood betwixt Martin

> and Jeremy?

>

>

>

>  ------------------------------

> *From:* "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>

> *To:* gathering at misera.net

> *Sent:* Thu, April 7, 2011 2:15:51 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

>

> I totally agree. Thank you so much, Cliff, for getting in touch with

> Martin about this! Let's hope he'll join the band for the tour!

>

> CG

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

> To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:12 pm

> Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

>

>

> Not a problem with Mr Atkins drumming again for Killing Joke. Would be

> fantastic infact.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:59:27 -0800

> From: cliffmonk at gmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

>

> Hey i just chatted with Martin Atkins,he's offering to jump on the

> tour,damn able and willing,i hope he get's it.Fwd this to the band if ya got

> their contact,i'd love to see this happen.Thanks CliffMonk

> http://anarchy-1.com/  hope to see ya sat morning for KJ internet radio

> show

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 20:48:55 -0700
From: "Dominico C" <dominicoc at hotmail.com>
Subject: [kj]  Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?
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Holy Crap!!! That would be sweet to see Atkins play!!!

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   3. Re: (OT) Remix . . . (Cliff Livingston)
   4. Re: Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!? (sade1)
   5. Re: Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!? (folk devil)
   6. Re: Drummer for US Tour: ? ( bq at soundgardener.co.nz )
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 00:00:41 +0100
From: Tabazan <tabazan at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
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Evening all,

I have submitted a remix to the Everything Everything competition on
Soundcloud . . . have a listen and tell me what you think

http://soundcloud.com/user3212391/final-form-lycopodeia-mix

Very much my normal sort of stuff :)


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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:28:10 -0800
From: Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer for US Tour: ?
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Martin Atkins wrote me,and he's offing to drum for the tour,i fwd his info
to KJ,fingers crossed.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:46 PM, <LONESTYLE at aol.com> wrote:


>  He may be a good drummer but...Josh Freese is a wanker! No respect for

> that fool! He ruined the Vandals and I wish my buddy Steve Human  (the

> original bass player) and the rest got  their money form that weasel for 

> the

> back royalties for the "Peace Through Vandalism"  album.

>

>

> ~ LB

>

>

>

>  In a message dated 4/7/2011 7:15:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> kjlist at live.com writes:

>

> Also, if it is the same drummer as they used in China, then it will be

> journeyman crusty-punk Spike T Smith, late of Conflict, The Damned

> and...Morrissey.

>

> *Biography*

> [image: Spike T. Smith]Spike T. Smith could well be described as the

> British version of josh freese with regards his varied & colourful 

> drumming

> career to date. Well known for his work with massively influential singer

> MORRISSEY, with whom he toured & recorded with between 1999 & 2003.

> Spike played previously with punk legends THE DAMNED before being poached

> by the above-mentioned singer. Before this spike cut his teeth playing for

> hardcore/dub reggae crossover act WARDANCE, recording two albums & 

> numerous

> singles & extensively touring Europe & north America in the mid 90's.

> There have also been many sessions that spike has contributed to & many

> remixes. More recently, an album with British rockers SONA FARIQ. THE

> MOTIVATORS (featuring Alain whyte & Gary day of Morrissey) Chinese pop

> singing superstar I Ching & THE T4 PROJECT which features some of the

> biggest names from the past 20 years of the u.s./u.k. punk scene, 

> including

> members of BAD RELIGION, PENNYWISE, STRUNG OUT, BUZZCOCKS ,THE SUBHUMANS &

> PORNO FOR PYROS. The album was released summer 2008.

> Gizz butt, former guitarist of THE PRODIGY & now fronting his own metal

> band THE MORE I SEE has also had Spike contributing his drumming skills to

> his bands album THE UNHOLY FEAST. He will also feature on their new album

> TREAD THE DARKER PATH.This should see the light of day in spring 2010. 

> There

> is also much touring in the pipeline; both in Europe & America where spike

> is an in demand player. He is currently performing live with Conflict & 

> will

> be performing the drumming duties on their next studio album "TILT". He is

> also performing with STEVE IGNORANT (former front man of CRASS) with his 

> new

> live band.

> In-between all this spike has taken part in a number of clinics

> demonstrating his wide-ranging styles & influences & also runs his own 

> drum

> school. He has also been the featured artist on the most recent Pearl Drum

> Vision advertisement that has been appearing in all the top drum 

> magazines.

>

> Some web sites to check out. 

> Thet4project.com<http://www.thet4project.com/>

> Myspace.com/t4project <http://www.myspace.com/t4project>,

> Myspace.com/themoreisee <http://www.myspace.com/themoreisee>

> Myspace.com/conflictofficial <http://www.myspace.com/conflictofficial> and

> Myspace.com/spiketsmith <http://www.myspace.com/spiketsmith>

>

>

>

> =

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:39:12 -0800
From: Cliff Livingston <cliffmonk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Remix . . .
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sounding good Marc,cheers CliffMonk

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Tabazan <tabazan at gmail.com> wrote:


> Evening all,

>

> I have submitted a remix to the Everything Everything competition on

> Soundcloud . . . have a listen and tell me what you think

>

> http://soundcloud.com/user3212391/final-form-lycopodeia-mix

>

> Very much my normal sort of stuff :)

>

>

> Marc

>

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
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Yeah but wasn't there some infernally bad blood?betwixt Martin and?Jeremy?


?


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From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 2:15:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

I totally agree. Thank you so much, Cliff, for getting in touch with Martin
about this! Let's hope he'll join the band for the tour!

CG





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From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:12 pm
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Not a problem?with Mr Atkins drumming again for Killing Joke.?Would be 
fantastic
infact.
?
?




?
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:59:27 -0800
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

Hey i just chatted with Martin Atkins,he's offering to jump on the tour,damn
able and willing,i hope he get's it.Fwd this to the band if ya got their
contact,i'd love to see this happen.Thanks CliffMonk http://anarchy-1.com/? 
hope
to see ya sat morning for KJ internet radio show

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 18:15:23 -0700
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?
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Atkins/Youth. 'Strange' rhythm section.

Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:47:04 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?




Yeah but wasn't there some infernally bad blood betwixt Martin and Jeremy?







From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 2:15:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

I totally agree. Thank you so much, Cliff, for getting in touch with Martin 
about this! Let's hope he'll join the band for the tour!

CG










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To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 2:12 pm
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Not a problem with Mr Atkins drumming again for Killing Joke. Would be 
fantastic infact.









Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:59:27 -0800
From: cliffmonk at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] Drummer ? How bout Martin Atkins !?!?

Hey i just chatted with Martin Atkins,he's offering to jump on the tour,damn 
able and willing,i hope he get's it.Fwd this to the band if ya got their 
contact,i'd love to see this happen.Thanks CliffMonk http://anarchy-1.com/ 
hope to see ya sat morning for KJ internet radio show
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:03:36 +1200
From: " bq at soundgardener.co.nz " <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer for US Tour: ?
To: " A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\) "
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Haha that's a given for this list...

Sent from my HTC

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Subject: [kj] Drummer for US Tour: ?
Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2011 02:31
LOL. Most of my posts are ironic and sarcy so it'd probably be easier to 
indicate which ones aren't!

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:






You forgot the winking smiley emoticon indicating irony or sarcasm...

?



?

Or maybe you didn't...
?



Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:25:36 +0100
From: paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] Drummer for US Tour: ?

I hope it's not Atkins because there's a danger they'll become too mercenary 
again. You know, start charging just to come backstage; make you pay twice 
for gigs - once for the ticket and again for the tracks you actually want to 
hear. Or releasing rip-off "deluxe" versions of albums. That sort of thing 
we could well do without.





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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:14:25 -0700
From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>
Subject: [kj] (OT) New Jane's Addiction
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They've put up a song that will be on their new album that comes out in late 
August.  It's called "End To The Lies" and is basically
Perry Farrell ranting about his former bandmate, bassist Eric Avery who 
co-wrote much of the classic songs.  Pretty childish lyrics
and the song's kind of mediocre but an interesting, almost industrial 
direction for the band:

http://janesaddiction.com/downloads

T.B.




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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:54:26 EDT
From: Devacor at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
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Paul is really a libertarian, but just going under a republican  banner- 
I'd really label him more a 'progressive' (one of the few) - He  and Kucinich 
(as in candidates)  are the only ones who arent  corporate sell out boys. 
I actually redid my voting status (as many others did)  so I  could vote 
for Paul- He's probably our only hope. Everyone in the   'in the know scene' 
here all holds Paul in the highest degree. This is the  first i'm hearing 
(outside of just mainstream head scratchers)  that anyone thinks Paul is a 
'loon'.
Like you said-once you really give him some time and see  what he's about, 
it makes sense- not saying one is going to agree  with all his points. 
I've met him, spoke with him on some matters and have it  planned at some 
point to do an article with him on the Federal Reserve.  

I'm doing a story now on how the Food safety modernization act  
(implemented under the Obama era) basically puts the FDA in a position to  shut down 
all small farms and organics if it wanted to. The feds can now  go and shut a 
farm down, just with a suspicion, not even with any actual  proof- the farm 
then has to pay with its own money (which would cripple  them to close down) 
to defend itself against biased fda law judges- 
so we wanted "Change", we got it. 

It's Ron Paul who sets up a special lobbying day and reception  for us to 
go into senate (about a month ago) and speak out about  this bill  to our 
representatives. The year before, he came  down to the after reception and 
showed support -- He  was fresh off the floor given a now famous speech about 
this war  being such bullshit and the whole WMD thing (as you mentioned)- 

He's actually pretty punk. 







  


In a message dated 4/7/2011 3:56:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jpwhkj at aol.com writes:

Someone I know and have come to respect over many long  conversations 
mentioned a speech by Ron Paul that he felt was spot  on.  I was so surprised 
that I had to check he was talking about  the Republican senator.  Anyway, 
seeing my disbelief, he sent me a  link, and I watched the speech.  Remarkably, 
the man was talking a  lot of sense.  I didn't agree with some of his 
conclusions - and I  was also aware that there were areas where I just didn't know 
enough to  agree or disagree.  But he certainly wasn't the loon that I'd  
always assumed him to be.  (I was particularly surprised to hear  him say 
that the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction thing was a  lie.)

The moral of this story - for me - is that whether someone is left  wing or 
right wing [or other categories] does not necessarily dictate  the validity 
of their discourse.

Jamie






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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:08:30 +1200
From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at
    Length on a Variety ...
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In fairness Jaz has been on about this for decades.



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2011 4:46 a.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ...



they've been ctagging our DNA for a few years now...

Q: Is Jaz saying anything we're not aware of, or just reiterating what's
already being shouted at street level..?
Most informed people now accept that we live under a Corporate
oligarchy...it might make a difference if he could shout a few alternatives,
instead of perpetuating what is staring us in the face..

  _____  

From: Devacor at aol.com
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:07:20 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] New Interview with Jaz Wherein He Discourses at Length on
a Variety ...


he's been talking like this the last 3 albums- this is nothing new. 

and I don't view these quotes as 'right wing'  - 

and don't worry when the rfid chips happen, it will seem like a keen, cool
idea. 



Adam



In a message dated 4/7/2011 10:33:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
b.oliver.sheppard at gmail.com writes:

Wow. Now I understand the "right wing Peter Gabriel" part:


Jaz: There is no more gold. The money isn't redeemable by gold or silver and
we all know it. We've got a much bigger problem here which I've spoken about
before. Basically we're gonna have RFID chips, and everything will be on
them, so if you want food from a supermarket you'll just swipe your hand
because they'll be implanted inside you, and this is the vision some people
in the Anglo-American establishment have for the future.



It's like Jaz Coleman has been watching a lot of Glenn Beck and Alex
Jones....  He's also ranting against unions in the interview. :/


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