[kj] RFH

[Alexander Smith]

Very good question.

On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Dominico C wrote:


> Is Big Paul on the next album atleast???

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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:48:33 +0100 (BST)

> From: Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the  

> way! Ha was also messed around on this one and was the last to know  

> about the dates.

> I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

>

> --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

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>

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net 

> >

> Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

>

>

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

>

>

> It's his business really.?

>

>

> Shame.?

>

>

> Best one of the lot.?

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it,  

> the original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to  

> a clash of work commitments or the like.

>

>

> Anyone shed any light?

> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>

>

> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much  

> needed new exposure.

> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a  

> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,  

> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>

>

> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the  

> rounds, recording the odd CD &?playing the old standards while?a  

> bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush  

> hush, eye to eye..."

>

>

>

> :)

>

>

>

>

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>

> Sad i missed it -?it could be the final gig with the original line  

> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates /?Europe Festival  

> dates.....but somebody?hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:52:46 +0100

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

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> Well he has been drumming for Calvin Harris which may carry some  

> weight in some quarters but not with the average KJ fan.

>

> TBH, if it ain't Paul it might as well be anyone unless  Grohl did  

> it!!!

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 16:48, Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

>> Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the  

>> way! Ha was also messed around on this one and was the last to know  

>> about the dates.

>> I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

>>

>> --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>>

>> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net 

>> >

>> Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

>>

>> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>>

>> It's his business really.

>>

>> Shame.

>>

>> Best one of the lot.

>>

>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it,  

>>> the original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>>> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due  

>>> to a clash of work commitments or the like.

>>>

>>> Anyone shed any light?

>>> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky  

>>> cake.

>>>

>>> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>>> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much  

>>> needed new exposure.

>>> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a  

>>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan  

>>> base, spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>>

>>> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>>> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>>> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the  

>>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a  

>>> bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush  

>>> hush, eye to eye..."

>>>

>>> :)

>>>

>>>

>>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>>

>>>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original  

>>>> line up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe  

>>>> Festival dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace  

>>>> him.shame.

>>

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> From: "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> Rat Scabies!

>

> What a mess that would be!!!

>

> Paul Cook? Solid..................................

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> From: Alex Smith

> Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about  

> all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big  

> Paul had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of  

> which he put back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to  

> want to tap back into that every now and again (just as Youth did  

> recently with that family matter). Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF  

> a second time is nothing short of heartbreaking ... especially for  

> ticket holders. Replacement nominees: 1. Atkins (would he still be  

> up for it?)

> 2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)

> 3. Ted Parsons (I wish)

> 4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)

> 5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)

> 6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission,  

> which is what he's doing nowadays) Alex in NYC -----Original  

> Message-----

> From: Rob Moss

> Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>

> It's his business really.

>

> Shame.

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

>

>> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it,  

>> the original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to  

>> a clash of work commitments or the like.

>>

>> Anyone shed any light?

>> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky  

>> cake.

>>

>> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much  

>> needed new exposure.

>> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a  

>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,  

>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>

>> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the  

>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a  

>> bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush  

>> hush, eye to eye..."

>>

>> :)

>>

>>

>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>

>>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line  

>>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival  

>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

>> _______________________________________________

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> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> How?!

>

>

>

>

> At 16:30 04/04/2011 +0000, you wrote:

>

>> Rat Scabies!

>>

>> What a mess that would be!!!

>>

>> Paul Cook? Solid..................................

>>

>> ?

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>

>>> From: Alex Smith

>>>

>>> Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

>>>

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about  

>>> all

>>> things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>>

>>>> ?

>>>> I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation,  

>>>> Big Paul

>>>> had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which  

>>>> he put

>>>> back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap  

>>>> back

>>>> into that every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that

>>>> family matter).

>>>> Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of

>>>> heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders.

>>>> Replacement nominees:

>>>> 1. Atkins (would he still be up for it?)

>>>> 2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)

>>>> 3. Ted Parsons (I wish)

>>>> 4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)

>>>> 5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)

>>>> 6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission,

>>>> which is what he's doing nowadays)

>>>> ?

>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>> ?

>>>> ?

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: Rob Moss

>>>> Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>>>

>>>> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>>>>

>>>> It's his business really.

>>>>

>>>> Shame.

>>>>

>>>> Best one of the lot.

>>>>

>>>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is  

>>>> it, the

>>>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>>>> > New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing  

>>>> due to a

>>>> clash of work commitments or the like.

>>>> >

>>>> > Anyone shed any light?

>>>> > BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather  

>>>> wonky cake.

>>>> >

>>>> > Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>>>> > Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

>>>> needed new exposure.

>>>> > Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

>>>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

>>>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>>> >

>>>> > [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>>>> > Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>>>> > Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

>>>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a  

>>>> bunch

>>>> of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush  

>>>> hush, eye

>>>> to eye..."

>>>> >

>>>> > :)

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original  

>>>> line

>>>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

>>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

>>>> > _______________________________________________

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> From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>

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> Rob Moss wrote:

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

>

> It's his business really.?

>

> Shame.?

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> +++++++++++++

>

> Out of curiosity, what is Paul's business?

>

> I wonder if this means BPF is simply sitting out the rest of the  

> tour dates for 2011 or has dropped out of the band "permanently?"

>

> Also, it's typical Killing Joke when fans find out about stuff like  

> this through other fans' conversations with band members at a

> gig instead of through some official means like say, their  

> website .... especially, well after tickets for the rest of the dates

> affected have gone on sale.

>

> And I agree, BPF was a *huge* element that made the last couple  

> years' shows work so well.  I know I commented after the Wiltern

> show in LA a few months ago that he was certainly the glue and the  

> engine that kept the band on track that night.

>

> T.B.

>

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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:25:05 +0100 (BST)

> From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> i havnt really enjoyed one gig with the 'original line up'.last  

> couple that were shit hot were bristol & astoria with benny & raven  

> playing darkness before dawn termite mound & sun goes down . think  

> that was 2005

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