[kj] Charging extra for a set list of our choice

bq@soundgardener.co.nz bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Apr 6 01:54:33 EDT 2011


Money is our God?

Sent from my HTC

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From: "Peter LAMB" <Peter.Lamb at nottingham.edu.cn>
To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: [kj] Charging extra for a set list of our choice
Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 17:33


Read with interest the claims that KJ would rehearse and play songs of the fans choice for an extra fee.

I wonder how much the following set would cost...

The Hum
We have Joy
Pandy's
Empire Song
Wilful Days
Feast of Blaze
Lust Almighty
Multitudes
Europe
Rubicon
Intravenous
Slipstream
Maths of Chaos
Savage Freedom
Absent Friends
Blood on Your Hands
Zennon
Judas Goat
Gratitude
The Great Cull
Singularity

They could choose the encore. Guess that that would be?



Best regards,
Peter Lamb
Nottingham University Business School
University of Nottingham
Ningbo
China


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I'm sure the kid in the video gets a lot of that Jamie when he goes to see his Dr. ;)

~ LB


In a message dated 4/5/2011 3:58:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, fatpotanga at gmail.com writes:

[coughs...]




On 5 Apr 2011, at 23:03, _countessghoulita at aol.com_
(mailto:countessghoulita at aol.com) wrote:


Oh hell no!!!!!!

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38vacxrDeo_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38vacxrDeo)

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Where's his tennis racket?

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Oh hell no!!!!!!



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Is Big Paul on the next album atleast???

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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:48:33 +0100 (BST)
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Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the way! Ha was also messed around on this one and was the last to know about the dates.
I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19



Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?


It's his business really.?


Shame.?


Best one of the lot.?

On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:




Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.
New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a clash of work commitments or the like.


Anyone shed any light?
BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.


Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.
Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed new exposure.
Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, spread the word & see some young blood in there.


[sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]
Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.
Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds, recording the odd CD &?playing the old standards while?a bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."




:)






On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

Sad i missed it -?it could be the final gig with the original line up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates /?Europe Festival dates.....but somebody?hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.


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Well he has been drumming for Calvin Harris which may carry some weight in some quarters but not with the average KJ fan.

TBH, if it ain't Paul it might as well be anyone unless Grohl did it!!!

On 4 Apr 2011, at 16:48, Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


> Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the

> way! Ha was also messed around on this one and was the last to know

> about the dates.

> I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

>

> --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>

> It's his business really.

>

> Shame.

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

>> clash of work commitments or the like.

>>

>> Anyone shed any light?

>> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>>

>> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

>> needed new exposure.

>> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>

>> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a

>> bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

>>

>> :)

>>

>>

>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>

>>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line

>>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

>

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Rat Scabies!

What a mess that would be!!!

Paul Cook? Solid..................................
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From: Alex Smith
Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big Paul had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which he put back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap back into that every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that family matter).
Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders. Replacement nominees: 1.
Atkins (would he still be up for it?)
2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album) 3. Ted Parsons (I wish) 4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh) 5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated) 6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission, which is what he's doing nowadays) Alex in NYC -----Original Message-----
From: Rob Moss
Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

It's his business really.

Shame.

Best one of the lot.

On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:


> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

> clash of work commitments or the like.

>

> Anyone shed any light?

> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>

> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

> needed new exposure.

> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>

> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch

> of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

>

> :)

>

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>

>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line up

>> as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
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How?!




At 16:30 04/04/2011 +0000, you wrote:


>Rat Scabies!

>

>What a mess that would be!!!

>

>Paul Cook? Solid..................................

>

>?

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>

>>From: Alex Smith

>>

>>Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

>>

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all

>>things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>

>>>?

>>>I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big

>>>Paul had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which

>>>he put back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to

>>>tap back into that every now and again (just as Youth did recently

>>>with that family matter).

>>>Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of

>>>heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders.

>>>Replacement nominees:

>>>1. Atkins (would he still be up for it?) 2. Grohl (he won't --- the

>>>Foos are about to release an album) 3. Ted Parsons (I wish) 4.

>>>Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh) 5.

>>>Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated) 6. Budgie

>>>(it would be more credible than playing with The Mission, which is

>>>what he's doing nowadays) ?

>>>Alex in NYC

>>>?

>>>?

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: Rob Moss

>>>Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>>

>>>Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>>>

>>>It's his business really.

>>>

>>>Shame.

>>>

>>>Best one of the lot.

>>>

>>>On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

>>>

>>> > Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it,

>>> > the

>>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>>> > New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due

>>> > to a

>>> clash of work commitments or the like.

>>> >

>>> > Anyone shed any light?

>>> > BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>>> >

>>> > Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>>> > Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

>>> needed new exposure.

>>> > Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

>>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

>>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>> >

>>> > [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...] Having said that, maybe I'm

>>> > kidding myself.

>>> > Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

>>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a

>>> bunch of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush

>>> hush, eye to eye..."

>>> >

>>> > :)

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original

>>> >> line

>>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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Rob Moss wrote:

Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

It's his business really.?

Shame.?

Best one of the lot.

+++++++++++++

Out of curiosity, what is Paul's business?

I wonder if this means BPF is simply sitting out the rest of the tour dates for 2011 or has dropped out of the band "permanently?"

Also, it's typical Killing Joke when fans find out about stuff like this through other fans' conversations with band members at a gig instead of through some official means like say, their website ....
especially, well after tickets for the rest of the dates affected have gone on sale.

And I agree, BPF was a *huge* element that made the last couple years' shows work so well. I know I commented after the Wiltern show in LA a few months ago that he was certainly the glue and the engine that kept the band on track that night.

T.B.



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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:25:05 +0100 (BST)
From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
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i havnt really enjoyed one gig with the 'original line up'.last couple that were shit hot were bristol & astoria with benny & raven playing darkness before dawn termite mound & sun goes down . think that was 2005


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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 23:28:42 +0200
From: "Frenchy Frenzy" <frenchyfrenzy at killingjoke.fr>
Subject: Re: [kj] Happy Birthday BP @ Manchester: in case anyone
missed it
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a huge THANK YOU

Stephane " Frenchy Frenzy"



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De : gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] De la part de Rheinhold Squeegee Envoy? : mardi 5 avril 2011 16:16 ? : Gathering Gathering Objet : [kj] Happy Birthday BP @ Manchester: in case anyone missed it



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No. They've exported him as a midi file.


> From: dominicoc at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:06:25 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> Is Big Paul on the next album atleast???

>

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Maybe he found it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaaAC0Hdpw

CG








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Where's his tennis racket?


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From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:03:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] new line up!!!!!!!


Oh hell no!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38vacxrDeo

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I prefer the old Dr. Avalanche then...

CG










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No. They've exported him as a midi file.


> From: dominicoc at hotmail.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:06:25 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> Is Big Paul on the next album atleast???

>

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