[kj] Amazing LP/ LLB
andrew scott
brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Sep 30 12:52:42 EDT 2010
What a fuckin amazing LP, was not expecting such heaviness!! In my room sounded more of pummelling than the Fleece gig! You could be right about best since Extremities, although only heaerd once. No doubt few more times this week! But what an atrocious murder of LLB!! Those girls should be taken off stage & strip searched for crimes against legendary music!!
The Fungus Moth.
Challenging the Future.
--- On Thu, 30/9/10, gathering-request at misera.net <gathering-request at misera.net> wrote:
From: gathering-request at misera.net <gathering-request at misera.net>
Subject: Gathering Digest, Vol 85, Issue 290
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thursday, 30 September, 2010, 17:32
Send Gathering mailing list submissions to
gathering at misera.net
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
gathering-request at misera.net
You can reach the person managing the list at
gathering-owner at misera.net
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Gathering digest..."
The Gathering - Digest
Today's Topics:
1. Re: More bitching (folk devil)
2. Re: More bitching (folk devil)
3. Re: back from Melkweg (pssyche23)
4. Re: back from Melkweg (pssyche23)
5. Love Like Blood (circusbar)
6. Re: back from Melkweg (folk devil)
7. Re: Love Like Blood (TB)
8. "ESS" Dubstep remix: (Rheinhold Squeegee)
9. OT F*cebook (David Noonan)
10. Re: Another positive review: (Rheinhold Squeegee)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:39:31 -0700
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] More bitching
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <BAY152-w60FFCFCB26BB1F48ED11929D680 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
One of my favourite haunts as a teenager was a music stall in the back of Wycombe Fayre (High Wycombe).
Pretty much found anything I wanted, especially those 200 press only releases.
The owner was a complete wanker, however.
There was also a similar outlet for ltd releases in Leeds, before I moved South. Can't remember its name for the life of me, though :/
You can find similar set ups on line e.g. Boomkat.
I'm glad Sister Ray is still with us :)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/bf9597b4/attachment.html>
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:44:16 -0700
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] More bitching
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <BAY152-w605E910CB19069656873099D680 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It's where I found Almost Red, Nervous System, a Turn to Red 10 and Pssyche :)
From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:39:31 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] More bitching
One of my favourite haunts as a teenager was a music stall in the back of Wycombe Fayre (High Wycombe).
Pretty much found anything I wanted, especially those 200 press only releases.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/8d664256/attachment.htm>
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:47:31 +0100
From: pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] back from Melkweg
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Cc: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>, "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <C17EDDA5-E1C7-42C2-90D1-60E92D421896 at clara.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
wot a cracking night it was. even managed to get a few hours at a rather damp but busy Schiphol ... oh yes :o) wishing you all equally fantastic nights at the remaining mainline gigs. back on manouveres for Edinburgh and London with the added delight of The Young Gods. Have fun you great people :o)
Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Sep 2010, at 09:08, pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:
> it was on the setlist as part of a 4 song encore but they added Change & only played Pandemonium from list also dropping Complications & Endgame. They were close to doing another one. The crowd were pleading for it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Sep 2010, at 09:54, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Great news! Now if only they'd play Kali Yuga as well....
>>
>> But no Raven King? Shame.
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>> CC: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 0:43
>> Subject: Re: [kj] der ner ner ner ner ner ner ner ner ner Bataclan
>>
>> Absolute Dissent & Ghosts also played in Amsterdam :o)
>>
>> 1. Tomorrow's World
>> 2. In Excelsis
>> 3. Wardance
>> 4. Absolute Dissent
>> 5. Bloodsport
>> 6. European Super State
>> 7. This World Hell
>> 8. The Fall Of Because
>> 9. Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove
>> 10. Requiem
>> 11. The Grest Cull
>> 12. This Is Madness
>> 13. Fresh Fever
>> 14. Asteroid
>> 15. Depthcharge
>> 16. The Wait
>> 17. Pssyche
>> --------------------
>> 18. Change
>> 19. Pandemonium
>>
>> Regards, Antoni
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 29 Sep 2010, at 20:38, "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Goosebumps!
>>>
>>> Can't wait for London now.
>>>
>>> Hope they're still together by then ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Steve Hackett
>>>> Sent: 09/29/10 07:32 PM
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>>>> Subject: [kj] der ner ner ner ner ner ner ner ner ner Bataclan
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6O4bdSRrx8&feature=related
>>>>
>>>> the chap has the whole gig by the look of it..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Gathering mailing list
>>> Gathering at misera.net
>>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>>
>> =
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gathering mailing list
>> Gathering at misera.net
>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gathering mailing list
>> Gathering at misera.net
>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/6f688f32/attachment.html>
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:50:08 +0100
From: pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] back from Melkweg
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Cc: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>, "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <2CA984C4-5037-4F21-92D9-5872051D329F at clara.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
mainland not "mainline" ... doh
Sent from my iPhone
On 30 Sep 2010, at 16:47, pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:
> wot a cracking night it was. even managed to get a few hours at a rather damp but busy Schiphol ... oh yes :o) wishing you all equally fantastic nights at the remaining mainline gigs. back on manouveres for Edinburgh and London with the added delight of The Young Gods. Have fun you great people :o)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Sep 2010, at 09:08, pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:
>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gathering mailing list
>> Gathering at misera.net
>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering at misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/0a4413c9/attachment.htm>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:51:32 -0300
From: circusbar <circusbar at uol.com.br>
Subject: [kj] Love Like Blood
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <4ca4b204cbebc_73d8e91266c1e0 at weasel18.tmail>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/f3f74ca7/attachment.html>
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:53:17 -0700
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] back from Melkweg
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <BAY152-w90395BAD1214058D4BAB29D680 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
ahh, haze ;)
CC: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
From: antoni at clara.net
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:50:08 +0100
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] back from Melkweg
mainland not "mainline" ... doh
Sent from my iPhone
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/aae97827/attachment.htm>
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:21:47 -0700
From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Love Like Blood
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
<gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <035701cb60bb$950402d0$bf0c0870$@rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
circusbar wrote:
This guys (girls) are really spreading the Joke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7XAlOsUxA8
That was pretty awful. Is it now considered hip rock star attire for the singer to wear a undersized hoodie onstage?
T.B.
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:30:04 -0500
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: [kj] "ESS" Dubstep remix:
To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <COL106-W104EBE43108AAFC2A11189A0680 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/absolute-dissent/id393011677
Anybody feel like posting this in the normal fashion for the rest of us without iTunes to enjoy?
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/3010300b/attachment-0001.html>
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:36:10 +0100
From: David Noonan <noonan.hq at ntlworld.com>
Subject: [kj] OT F*cebook
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <C8CA6CFA.AA66%noonan.hq at ntlworld.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Gatherers, I have belatedly joined facebook, join me for erratic bollocks of
almost every conceivable kind here:
http://www.facebook.com/Noonanio
Dave
Leeds
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/2272007b/attachment-0001.htm>
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:32:01 -0500
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Another positive review:
To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Message-ID: <COL106-W38A71DF045F03A594ACF6AA0680 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Found it:
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:15:42 -0400
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Another positive review:
By the way... does anyone still have the original list of candidate tracks for the album?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:39
Subject: [kj] Another positive review:
http://www.uberrock.co.uk/cd-reviews/29-september-cd/1411-killing-joke-absolute-dissent-spinefarm-records-uk.html
Sitting down to review an album by a band that is fundamentally larger than life itself is never an easy task. When said album also marks the first recordings of the band's original line up in 28 years you know you're going to have to be on the top of your game with your arguments if anything is not quite right with the band's outputs.
Thankfully for me, 'Absolute Dissent' the all new twelve track album from post punk legends Killing Joke is a staggeringly brilliant shot of 'no shit' post punk rock that sounds as vibrant and urgent as a band a fraction of their age. Produced by the band themselves and mixed by Clive Goodman, the album sounds like a thunderstorm in your head, the relentless riffing sending your brain into overdrive. Just be careful if listening to the album on headphones on public transport, as incidents of 'Scanners-like' head explosions could soon be widespread.
Following the sad passing of latter day bassist Paul Raven the original line up of bassist Youth, guitarist Geordie Walker, iconic frontman Jaz Coleman and drummer Paul Ferguson found themselves thrown back together once again and touring the world. Recording 'Absolute Dissent', the classic line up have already stated that "it is the single most important work that Killing Joke has ever done".
So what of the songs? Well, album opener and title track 'Absolute Dissent' is the sort of anthemic yet claustrophobic rock the band were playing around with at the time of their 2003 self titled album. And this formula flows neatly into 'The Great Cull' and 'Fresh Fever From The Skies', both having huge choruses that turn your stomach over like a post punk roller coaster ride.
'In Excelsis' and (the album's lead single) 'European Super State' are for me the point where the album really takes a leap out of what might be seen as the norm, by both dipping their prospective toes into potential hit single territory. I'll state openly right here that 'European Super State' is one of the most infectious songs I've heard this year and this track alone should be the catalyst that sparks a million and one chicken dance revivals in the heads of those old enough to know what I'm talking about.
'This World World Hell' and 'End Game' showcase the heavier end of the Killing Joke spectrum of sound, but are also thankfully immediately memorable, and is that really Jaz sounding not unlike a certain Lemmy Kilminster on the latter track? Next up the band's lament to Paul Raven 'The Raven King', opens with a fantastically gentle intro before developing into a throbbing, tower of melody.. The Raven himself couldn't have written a more fitting epitaph.
Perhaps it is the mention of Paul Raven that suddenly makes me think that 'Honor The Fire' and 'Depthcharge' could have sat neatly on the recently released 'Mob Research' album, such is the fire and ferocity they are delivered with, you can almost see Jaz stood stage centre eyes popping and forehead throbbing as he cries out the refrain of 'Depthcharge'......Priceless stuff, and classic Killing Joke.
Having been converted to Killing Joke around the commercial high of their 'Night Time' album it's certainly nice to hear Geordie reclaiming the guitar sound of that era for the stampeding 'Here Comes The Singularity'. Whilst closing down 'Absolute Dissent' is the dub heavy 'Ghosts On Ladbroke Grove' that skanks with just the right amount of pent up frustration Jaz always seems to bring to the Killing Joke mix.
Taking you back to my introduction and my opening "larger than life itself" gambit regarding the band. If that had you simply thinking, "what the fuck is he on about?" Then take a look at the deluxe edition of 'Absolute Dissent' that comes with a second CD full of other bands paying tribute to the influence Killing Joke have had on their careers. Amongst the list of bands are a few you may have heard of, Fear Factory, Amen, Helmet, immediately jump out of the tracklisting oh and then that are the smaller names like Foo Fighters and Metallica.
'Absolute Dissent' is an essential purchase for existing Killing Joke fans worldwide, but is also an album strong enough to open up the band's twisted world to a whole new generation yet to discover their appeal.
Killing Joke - 'Absolute Dissent' (Spinefarm Records)
CD Reviews
Written by Johnny H
Monday, 27 September 2010 05:00
Sitting down to review an album by a band that is fundamentally larger than life itself is never an easy task. When said album also marks the first recordings of the band's original line up in 28 years you know you're going to have to be on the top of your game with your arguments if anything is not quite right with the band's outputs.
Thankfully for me, 'Absolute Dissent' the all new twelve track album from post punk legends Killing Joke is a staggeringly brilliant shot of 'no shit' post punk rock that sounds as vibrant and urgent as a band a fraction of their age. Produced by the band themselves and mixed by Clive Goodman, the album sounds like a thunderstorm in your head, the relentless riffing sending your brain into overdrive. Just be careful if listening to the album on headphones on public transport, as incidents of 'Scanners-like' head explosions could soon be widespread.
Following the sad passing of latter day bassist Paul Raven the original line up of bassist Youth, guitarist Geordie Walker, iconic frontman Jaz Coleman and drummer Paul Ferguson found themselves thrown back together once again and touring the world. Recording 'Absolute Dissent', the classic line up have already stated that "it is the single most important work that Killing Joke has ever done".
So what of the songs? Well, album opener and title track 'Absolute Dissent' is the sort of anthemic yet claustrophobic rock the band were playing around with at the time of their 2003 self titled album. And this formula flows neatly into 'The Great Cull' and 'Fresh Fever From The Skies', both having huge choruses that turn your stomach over like a post punk roller coaster ride.
'In Excelsis' and (the album's lead single) 'European Super State' are for me the point where the album really takes a leap out of what might be seen as the norm, by both dipping their prospective toes into potential hit single territory. I'll state openly right here that 'European Super State' is one of the most infectious songs I've heard this year and this track alone should be the catalyst that sparks a million and one chicken dance revivals in the heads of those old enough to know what I'm talking about.
'This World World Hell' and 'End Game' showcase the heavier end of the Killing Joke spectrum of sound, but are also thankfully immediately memorable, and is that really Jaz sounding not unlike a certain Lemmy Kilminster on the latter track? Next up the band's lament to Paul Raven 'The Raven King', opens with a fantastically gentle intro before developing into a throbbing, tower of melody.. The Raven himself couldn't have written a more fitting epitaph.
Perhaps it is the mention of Paul Raven that suddenly makes me think that 'Honor The Fire' and 'Depthcharge' could have sat neatly on the recently released 'Mob Research' album, such is the fire and ferocity they are delivered with, you can almost see Jaz stood stage centre eyes popping and forehead throbbing as he cries out the refrain of 'Depthcharge'......Priceless stuff, and classic Killing Joke.
Having been converted to Killing Joke around the commercial high of their 'Night Time' album it's certainly nice to hear Geordie reclaiming the guitar sound of that era for the stampeding 'Here Comes The Singularity'. Whilst closing down 'Absolute Dissent' is the dub heavy 'Ghosts On Ladbroke Grove' that skanks with just the right amount of pent up frustration Jaz always seems to bring to the Killing Joke mix.
Taking you back to my introduction and my opening "larger than life itself" gambit regarding the band. If that had you simply thinking, "what the fuck is he on about?" Then take a look at the deluxe edition of 'Absolute Dissent' that comes with a second CD full of other bands paying tribute to the influence Killing Joke have had on their careers. Amongst the list of bands are a few you may have heard of, Fear Factory, Amen, Helmet, immediately jump out of the tracklisting oh and then that are the smaller names like Foo Fighters and Metallica.
'Absolute Dissent' is an essential purchase for existing Killing Joke fans worldwide, but is also an album strong enough to open up the band's twisted world to a whole new generation yet to discover their appeal.
Killing Joke - 'Absolute Dissent' (Spinefarm Records)
CD Reviews
Written by Johnny H
Monday, 27 September 2010 05:00
Sitting down to review an album by a band that is fundamentally larger than life itself is never an easy task. When said album also marks the first recordings of the band's original line up in 28 years you know you're going to have to be on the top of your game with your arguments if anything is not quite right with the band's outputs.
Thankfully for me, 'Absolute Dissent' the all new twelve track album from post punk legends Killing Joke is a staggeringly brilliant shot of 'no shit' post punk rock that sounds as vibrant and urgent as a band a fraction of their age. Produced by the band themselves and mixed by Clive Goodman, the album sounds like a thunderstorm in your head, the relentless riffing sending your brain into overdrive. Just be careful if listening to the album on headphones on public transport, as incidents of 'Scanners-like' head explosions could soon be widespread.
Following the sad passing of latter day bassist Paul Raven the original line up of bassist Youth, guitarist Geordie Walker, iconic frontman Jaz Coleman and drummer Paul Ferguson found themselves thrown back together once again and touring the world. Recording 'Absolute Dissent', the classic line up have already stated that "it is the single most important work that Killing Joke has ever done".
So what of the songs? Well, album opener and title track 'Absolute Dissent' is the sort of anthemic yet claustrophobic rock the band were playing around with at the time of their 2003 self titled album. And this formula flows neatly into 'The Great Cull' and 'Fresh Fever From The Skies', both having huge choruses that turn your stomach over like a post punk roller coaster ride.
'In Excelsis' and (the album's lead single) 'European Super State' are for me the point where the album really takes a leap out of what might be seen as the norm, by both dipping their prospective toes into potential hit single territory. I'll state openly right here that 'European Super State' is one of the most infectious songs I've heard this year and this track alone should be the catalyst that sparks a million and one chicken dance revivals in the heads of those old enough to know what I'm talking about.
'This World World Hell' and 'End Game' showcase the heavier end of the Killing Joke spectrum of sound, but are also thankfully immediately memorable, and is that really Jaz sounding not unlike a certain Lemmy Kilminster on the latter track? Next up the band's lament to Paul Raven 'The Raven King', opens with a fantastically gentle intro before developing into a throbbing, tower of melody.. The Raven himself couldn't have written a more fitting epitaph.
Perhaps it is the mention of Paul Raven that suddenly makes me think that 'Honor The Fire' and 'Depthcharge' could have sat neatly on the recently released 'Mob Research' album, such is the fire and ferocity they are delivered with, you can almost see Jaz stood stage centre eyes popping and forehead throbbing as he cries out the refrain of 'Depthcharge'......Priceless stuff, and classic Killing Joke.
Having been converted to Killing Joke around the commercial high of their 'Night Time' album it's certainly nice to hear Geordie reclaiming the guitar sound of that era for the stampeding 'Here Comes The Singularity'. Whilst closing down 'Absolute Dissent' is the dub heavy 'Ghosts On Ladbroke Grove' that skanks with just the right amount of pent up frustration Jaz always seems to bring to the Killing Joke mix.
Taking you back to my introduction and my opening "larger than life itself" gambit regarding the band. If that had you simply thinking, "what the fuck is he on about?" Then take a look at the deluxe edition of 'Absolute Dissent' that comes with a second CD full of other bands paying tribute to the influence Killing Joke have had on their careers. Amongst the list of bands are a few you may have heard of, Fear Factory, Amen, Helmet, immediately jump out of the tracklisting oh and then that are the smaller names like Foo Fighters and Metallica.
'Absolute Dissent' is an essential purchase for existing Killing Joke fans worldwide, but is also an album strong enough to open up the band's twisted world to a whole new generation yet to discover their appeal.
=
_______________________________________________
Gathering mailing list
Gathering at misera.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
_______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering at misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/6af9ed4d/attachment.html>
------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Gathering mailing list
Gathering at misera.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
End of Gathering Digest, Vol 85, Issue 290
******************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/attachments/20100930/00376979/attachment-0001.html>
More information about the Gathering
mailing list