[kj] ESS

[n0153 jr]

remixed
redrummed
resung



On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Michael Garcia <sandstorm_mg at yahoo.com>wrote:


> I think hosannas should me entirely remixed. Curious as to what that would

> sound like

>

> Michael

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> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:40 AM, countessghoulita at aol.com wrote:

>

>  "BTATS" was true to the music at that time, including the happy go-lucky

> 80's danceteria songs. Great lyrics, but clearly weaker than "Night Time".

> Hosannas needs to be re-mastered and released again. I actually like it.

>

> CG

>

>

>

>  -----Original Message-----

> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net

> >

> Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 9:17 am

> Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

>

>  Hmmmm.... "BTATS" had some great songs, but also a few clunkers, too.

> It's definitely better than "Hosannas," however. (I just can't abide by all

> the gutteral singing by Mr. Coleman on nearly every song.)

>

> K.W.

> the States

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> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

> *To:* <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> *Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:49 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] ESS

>

>

>  Hosannas Versus Btats  ?

>

>

> It all depends what mood i'm in.

>

>

>

>

>

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> From: <vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net

> To: <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:43:25 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

>

>

>  I remember being somewhat aghast upon my first taste of BTATS (that being

> the "Adorations" single). Not only did they look vaguely Romo on the cover,

> but as Greg points out, there was a good deal of synth syrup splattered all

> over the proceedings. Still, I do think BTATS has stood well over the years.

>

>  It feels entirely strange to compare HOSANNAS with BTATS. Two different

> eras. Practically two different bands, although, I guess technically, the

> absence of Big Paul is the only difference in line-up.

>

>  I'll take BTATS over HOSANNAS every time. The reason? There are at least

> actual SONGS on BTATS, not just extended jams sessions with Jaz bellowing

> over the top.

>

>  Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>  On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:02 PM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>

>  Yes, it usually is Alex!

> I know people don't like the production on Hossanas, but i'd rather have

> that than they synth-drenched sugar coating on BTATS, which makes The

> Killers sound like Motorhead.

>

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> From:  <vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net

> To:  <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:41:46 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

>

>

>  "decent nu-metal tunes"

>

>  Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?

>

>  Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>  On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:35 AM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>

>  I've always thought of Hossanas as the real "KJ for Beginners". It sort

> of covers lots of the bands sounds and styles (w/the exception of their late

> 80s New Romanic wannabe phase), with a couple of

> decent nu-metal tunes thrown in (I think Implosion and the title track are

> pretty good). True, the songs are too long and many are ripoffs of older

> songs (Walking With Gods was the new Change, Majestic the

> new Intravenous, Invocation the new Communion, and Lightbringer sounded

> like a bunch of them). But I think it's pretty representative of the band,

> as is the new album, which also repeats older stuff a bit. And the 2 songs

> everyone likes,

> Judas and Gratitude, bring back some of the uneasy weirdness of

> Revelations, and with a bigger sound. I think the main weakness of both

> Hosannas and KJ2003 are the lack of emotional depth of some of the earlier

> stuff.

>

> > From:  <planetary at socal.rr.com>planetary at socal.rr.com

> > To:  <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:59:10 -0700

> > Subject: Re: [kj] ESS

> >

> > Alexander Smith wrote:

> >

> > Listened to it on the way home from work today -- and, by george, you're

> absolutely right. Better than I remembered as well.

> >

> > That said, I also listened to HOSANNAS in its unwieldy entirety quite

> recently too. Sadly, my impression of it has not softened with

> > age. While I like bits of "Implosion" and "Majestic," I still think it's

> my least favorite album. Better than COURTAULD TALKS , I

> > suppose, but less intriguing than OTG (the myriad flaws of which still

> compel me to re-visit).

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> > +++++++++++

> >

> > Interesting in that I've been giving Hosannas as well as Democracy

> listens lately during long drives (I can't even listen to OTG)

> > and aside from Judas Goat and Gratitude, and if anything, my attitude

> towards HFTBOH has hardened. There's really nothing I can say

> > I like about the album aside from those two tracks which aren't that

> great to begin with. And every time I hear Lightbringer, I

> > laugh - it's one of the band's goofiest songs and recalls that YouTube

> video of the long haired guy pretending to be Jaz.

> >

> > T.B.

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