[kj] You are a thief

F. Luke fluke1 at live.co.uk
Wed Sep 15 03:13:20 EDT 2010



You are comparing two different situations.

Reading portions of books in a book shops isnt similar to downloaded a whole album .

If you would like to compare the two, then downloaded a book before its been released , reading it and then promising to buy it once it had been released is a comparison .

Also, I dont feel that the bookshop would welcome you if you just went into a shop, spent the whole day photocopying the book and then put it back on the shelf without buying it .










Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:07:36 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief







Every time I see this almost non-sequitur-ish (to the Gathering) thread's title I keep thinking "You are a gazelle.. you are a gazelle," (4:45) http://en.sevenload.com/videos/3a9bADE-Roughly-Squeaking-Looney-Tunes , as if anyone here really wants to steal from the band.
Is it also wrong for people to read portions of a book in bookstores, flick thru the magazines, or to bookmark Youtube videos? or premarital sex?

Okay, scratch that last one... =)








From: F. Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 8:24:17 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief





I was making the the point that people shouldnt upload it, rather than they shouldnt download it.








From: paulwady at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:02:54 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief



Interesting thread in that it refuses to die. Very good point about illegal download of course, but we constantly parry that we are the one group of people who really will buy the bloody thing.




Yet still it lives? What are we supposed to do, not download anything else ever? Someone will. I used to tape records off the radio in the 70's. Videotape TV? As noble and honest an argument as it is, not downloading is a bit naive?


Everyone here did it in the context of buying it later. We alone are one group who have an ethic about this?





From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:54:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief




Of course we're all buying it, Jasmead. Who's suggested otherwise?


Alex in NYC




On Sep 11, 2010, at 10:28 AM, jasmead111 at verizon.net wrote:


sorry, people, but - i'd say that if you don't purchase this new release in favor of downloading it, you are then not very supportive of the group Killing Joke and their endeavors.

Sep 11, 2010 06:38:00 AM, gathering at misera.net wrote:


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Myself and my brother both bought a copy,

>I'm happy to admit.

>

>--- On Fri, 10/9/10, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>

>2px solid">

>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

>Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 21:57

>

>


Mike Coles still has a few!!!


>



>

>On 10 Sep 2010, at 21:48, "PaulGorman [Home]" <

>ymailto="mailto:PaulGorman at ireland.com" target="_blank">PaulGorman at ireland.com> wrote:

>

>



>



Welcome back Pete

And no, never got that Chaos for breakfast

>CD ...lol



dub





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>Sent: 10 September 2010 07:34 AM

>To:

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">gathering at misera.net

>Subject: [kj] You are a thief




"THIS asks for NO info and you just download...like

>it should be."

>

>

>

> If the band do not recuperate the monies

>spent on recording the album, then who do you suggest should pay for the expense

>of making the album, let alone the band receiving money in order to venture into

>any more projects .

> Why do you feel that you have the right

>to obtain something for free ?

>Whoever put it on rapidshare has done a huge disservice

>to the band , it was previously taken down for a reason and people should have respected

>this .

>Would you feel happy if you spent over a year creating

>something that cost a lot of time and effort and expense and when you had completed

>it, people just came and took it without paying you for your work ?

> Its similar to walking down a street, seeing a new

>house and saying "That looks nice, I'm going to go and live there", jumping over

>the wall and then going to live there.

>The album isnt yours to either give away for free or

>to download for free .

>It is like stealing from family members .

>





From:

>ymailto="mailto:alexih at hotmail.com" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:alexih at hotmail.com" target="_blank">alexih at hotmail.com

>To:

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">gathering at misera.net

>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:37:42 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!

>

> THANK YOU Phil! I just got WAY overcharged for the Soulseek

>thing and couldn't find what I was looking for at all. THIS asks for NO info

>and you just download...like it should be.

>

>

>



Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh

>Alexi! And she gives a bloodthirsty scream:

"Brace yourself, oh human speck of

>dust! I bring darkness and mayhem like a four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"

>

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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:11:33 +0100

>From:

>ymailto="mailto:phil.tofield at virgin.net" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:phil.tofield at virgin.net" target="_blank">phil.tofield at virgin.net

>To:

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:gathering at misera.net" target="_blank">gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!



heres another download link







>target="_blank">

>target="_blank">http://rapidshare.com/files/418088968/KJ-absolute_dissent.zip.html





>

>



On 9 September 2010 17:05, Javier Garcia <

>ymailto="mailto:jagargal at lycos.com" target="_blank">

>ymailto="mailto:jagargal at lycos.com" target="_blank">jagargal at lycos.com> wrote:

The file is no longer there. One day out of this mailing

>list and what kind of material you may loose!!

>

>I solemnly promise -my right hand on my heart- i´ll buy the new record and the

>singles surrounding this new release.

>

>Now: Could anybody help me here!?!?

>

>All these past days I was thinking not download, not even listen, any more new

>tracks, in order to get an actual real "new CD"; but i really hate to read all your

>posts and have no idea of what you´re talking about. Bring it on please!

>

>Javier

>mexico city

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