[kj] So new album..where does it stand

[Cliff Livingston]

remix that pop music track and turn up the guitar,this ain't the pet shop
boys.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 7:17 PM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:


> Alt-pop radio is slightly more listenable than the "grunge" 90s, although a

> lot of the mainstream bands sound like Eddie Veder is their singer. And I

> see the U2 infuence

> in Coldplay and the Killers. I think many of the "alternative" bands

> of today have a vague 80s influence (e.g. The Bravery) and a few sound

> exactly like certain 80s bands

> (Interplol is almost a Joy Division cover band, for example).

> What's strange is that in the US 80 bands like the Cure and New Order are

> still a bit popular, but everyone seems to have forgotten about KJ, who are

> still great! Fuck radio.

>

> ------------------------------

> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:13:52 -0700

>

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

>

>  > ..Rodney on the ROck)--is it still around?

>

> That's a great idea. Last I heard Herr Rodney still is at KROQ.  And i

> don't think the cd has to actually "arrive in the US" for him to play it,

> since he has always played lots of imports anyway.

>

> > ..a lot of the stuff on radio these days sounds ok

>

> It seems like current radio bands are all trying to sound like U2 and

> JoyDivision/NewOrder (Coldplay, She Wants Revenge, The Killers), or in the

> case of Lady Gaga's "Alejandro" Madonna, ABBA, *and* Ace Of Base, all at

> once (why.. I don't know...).

> But yeah my guilty pleasure has always been pop Radio.

>

>

> "I wanna be a billionaire, *so fuckin' bad..."    *Ha!

>

>

>

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> *From:* GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

> *To:* gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Fri, September 10, 2010 8:07:13 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

>

> What about KROQ (Rodney on the ROck)--is it still around?

> I could easily imagine ESS on the comm-alternative radio. But first, the cd

> has to arrive on the shores of the US. THen, the completely pre-programmed,

> bought and paid for, spineless radio has to play it. It's not like the 90s

> when these new alt radio stations played stuff like "Pandemonium" and bands

> like Consolidated

> (although they played lost of awful stuff like Happy Mondays--that dreadful

> song "I'm Free to do what I want/Any old time..."

> That being said, a lot of the stuff on radio these days sounds ok--very 80s

> influenced, and even big bands like the Killers are better than some 80s

> puke rock like

> Eurythmics, the Cars, etc.

>

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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:54:16 -0700

> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

>

>   Seriously, I think the new stuff sounds like it could play really well

> on

> NPR-type stations. Here in Los Angeles there is KCRW and I really think it

> would fit well in their playlists (say, on Morning Becomes Eclectic;

> Jason Bentley's nighttime show) and in their artist showcases that they

> have regularly. European Super State sounds great for that. Sounds like

> it's perfect (w/a little Youthful tweaking) for the clubs too.

>

> Fresh Fever (and ESS) could definitely play well on Comm-Pop Radio.

> Then again, I don't know.. I just DL'd the album so I haven't been able to

>

> consider the other gems.

>

>

>

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> *From:* GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

> *To:* gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Fri, September 10, 2010 5:12:49 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

>

> I think we should start a phone-in campaign in all our US cities to get

> "ESS" played on the commercial "alternative" radio stations. That is, if

> they release the thing in the US...

>

> > From: Peter.Lamb at nottingham.edu.cn

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 07:32:48 +0800

> > Subject: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> >

> > It is wthout doubt a fine record and has some moments that get close to

> the original feel.

> > Although there's no tribal drumming, BPF is innovative and the patterns

> are interesting. Ceratainly he's not the quickest or heaviest drummer but he

> is BPF and in my mind brings something that makes a difference. He is BPF

> afterall, say no more.

> >

> > The Great Cull is going to knacker all of us when we hear it live-thank

> God!

> >

> > The Raven King reminds me a bit of the Chameleons a bit - but it cetainly

> gets to you.

> >

> > I like it all- it comes togther as whole really well and it is a pleasure

> to hear Jaz sing again.

> >

> > An excellent last hurrah?

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Peter

> >

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> > 1. Re: So new album..where does it stand (Leigh Newton)

> > 2. Re: So new album..where does it stand (Alex Smith)

> > 3. Re: Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream (Paul Wady)

> > 4. Re: So new album..where does it stand (TB)

> > 5. Re: You are a thief (sade1)

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> > Message: 1

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT)

> > From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> > To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things

> > Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>

> > Message-ID: <927634.90432.qm at web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

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> >

> > Honour the Fire is definitely a contender for?a bit of filler. Not a

> terrible

> > song though. Also there's Depthcharge, which is good but reminds me of

> Another

> > Bloody Election (a song I'd rather not be reminded of).

> >

> >

> > The album, as a whole, is really great. It sounds cohesive and

> deliberate, in

> > direct contrast to Hosannas which sounds exactly like a bunch of jam

> sessions

> > that got pieced together?by some poor bastard of an engineer. The Great

> Cull,

> > whilst being one of the heavier tracks on the album, wouldn't sound out

> of place

> > at all on Night Time (if you use your imagination a little bit). It's got

> that

> > Tabazan/Europe vibe to it. A?few of the songs that we heard seperately

> and

> > seemed a little lacklustre make a lot more sense in the context of the

> album,

> > Fresh?Fever being the?best example of that. Here Comes the Singularity is

> > another awesome number and probably the closest the album comes to the

> "classic

> > sound".

> >

> >

> > What's weird to me is that?while several songs on the album?do sound a

> little

> > like classic KJ, none of them?really sound like?classic Youth-era KJ.

> Weird.

> > ?

> > Leigh

> >

> > --

> >

> > http://www.nightruiner.com

> > http://www.tstat.org

> > http://www.myspace.com/streetmeatmusic

> > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <

> gathering at misera.net>;

> > gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 4:18:18 PM

> > Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> >

> >

> > I like "Depthcharge," but it did seem a bit reminiscent of, say,

> "Asteroid." Not

> > a bad thing, but no ground broken.

> > Here's a bold thread. Least favorite song on new album?

> >

> > I'll say "Honour the Fire."

> > ?

> > Yours?

> > ?

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > >From: GREG SLAWSON

> > >Sent: Sep 10, 2010 3:07 PM

> > >To: gathering

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> > >

> > >My take on the album (listened to on crappy computer):

> > >Great, except for--

> > >This World Hell & Depthcharge: kind of dull (mostly tuneless metal

> sludge)

> > >Ghost of L.G.--quite dull (not as good as "Another Cult Goes Down" in

> terms of

> > >Joke-reggae)

> > >?

> > >________________________________

> >

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> > Message: 2

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:52:58 -0400 (EDT)

> > From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> > To: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>, "A list about all things

> > Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

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> > Message: 3

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:06:05 +0100

> > From: Paul Wady <paulwady at hotmail.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream

> > To: Gatherers Killing Joke Gatherers <gathering at misera.net>

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> >

> > *Embarrassed* Erm...sorry, who? *blush*

> > Better get on Myspace fast!

> >

> >

> > From: folk.devil at hotmail.comTo: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:40:37 -0700

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Tangerine Dream

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I bet you like Rubicon and Phaedra, though ;)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: paulwady at hotmail.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:53:06 +0100

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Warm up show at the Fleece?? Now Ultravox

> >

> >

> > Could never appreciate Can & Tangerine Dream though. *Gasp!*

> >

> >

> >

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> > Message: 4

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:30:32 -0700

> > From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

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> > Alex Smith wrote:

> >

> > I like "Depthcharge," but it did seem a bit reminiscent of, say,

> "Asteroid." Not a bad thing, but no ground broken.

> > Here's a bold thread. Least favorite song on new album?

> >

> > I'll say "Honour the Fire."

> >

> > Yours?

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> > +++++++++++++++++++

> >

> > I agree. HTF is pretty generic sounding rawk to me. Instrumentally, it

> sounds like an out-take off Van Halen's "Balance" album.

> >

> > Otherwise, this album is more or less better than I really thought it'd

> be even after hearing some of the tracks over the last couple months. It

> comes together as a coherent album a lot better than I thought it would

> considering the different styles. I still get a sense there's at least three

> distinct periods over the past 18 months these songs can ber grouped into

> and not just stylistically, but a general "feel" in the music. For instance,

> "Fresh Fever" has a sharp, live in the studio feel to it where the listener

> can almost feel the newness of the band playing together again fresh off the

> reunion tour while HTF and Singularity notably feel a bit too labored over

> and sterile in comparison, something a band suffering from being cooped up

> in a studio too long would produce.

> >

> > But really, I am totally happy that not only did this lineup actually

> stick together to release a new album, but produced a record that I'd put up

> in the top 3 or 4 best albums they've ever released. I really hope they play

> at least 2/3rds of the material live this tour.

> >

> > T.B.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------

> >

> > Message: 5

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT)

> > From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Message-ID: <455568.18895.qm at web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

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> >

> > Absolutely great suggestion! Irony of ironies thatthat?was the one

> project that

> > wasn't leaked.

> >

> > ?

> > ?

> > Any chance of Gems being leaked , at least this way those that have been

> ripped

> > off can get something back.

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>

> > To: killing joke message board <gathering at misera.net>

> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 1:18:18 AM

> > Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ?

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:01:50 +0200

> > From: rob.moss at gmx.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

> >

> >

> > The album is going to be up on torrents anyway so the casual music fan

> will

> > always get it.

> > The way it was leaked was very much a case of "you have to be in the

> know". A

> > random search via torrent sites showed nothing for weeks- I know cos I

> tried.

> >

> > As for Gems, it does exist! It materialised in as much as it was recorded

> and

> > mastered. People were charged for something that was never delivered.

> > The fact that it's not all that good doesn't come into it.

> >

> > Consider this one all Pete! The intention of everyone is to have a listen

> prior

> > to release and then buy it.

> >

> >

> > Enjoy your travels. All power to you for talking the leap that so many of

> us are

> > fearful of!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > ----- Original Message -----

> > >From: F. Luke

> > >Sent: 09/10/10 08:01 AM

> > >To: gathering at misera.net

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

> > >

> > >I ve left the U.K.?

> > >I noticed that a lot of people seem to be dying , and it dawned on me

> that my

> > >time will come soon, so I'll let those Eastern Europeans build the

> houses and I

> > >packed up and am travelling around the World . I am going to find

> somewhere that

> > >I like and live there . I may try to find a rainforest in Indonesia that

> doesnt

> > >have any large spiders , I f'kin hate spiders .

> > >

> > >? Anyway , I agree that most people on the Gathering will buy the album

> , but

> > >the casual music fan may just download it and not bother buying it upon

> its

> > >release .

> > >Gems of power and cancelled gigs are not deliberate acts of theft , they

> are

> > >projects that didnt materialise . The original intention wasnt to steal

> or to

> > >deceive . Unlike the taking of the music, which is deliberately taking

> something

> > >that you have no right to take .

> > >???

> > >?

> > >?

> > >?

> > >________________________________

> > From: rob.moss at gmx.com

> > >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:42:37 +0100

> > >To: gathering at misera.net

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief

> > >

> > >

> > >Pete!

> > >

> > >

> > >Wondered where you were! Spectacular re-entry frothing at the mouth.?

> > >

> > >

> > >Every fuckers gonna buy this. You know it!

> > >

> > >

> > >By the way, when you talk about thievery in the future think about Gems

> > >Of Power and all the money wasted on cancelled gigs.?

> > >

> > >

> > >Copy us in your email to the band won't you?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Back on your horse! Giddy up!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >On 10 Sep 2010, at 07:34, "F. Luke" <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >? "THIS asks for NO info and you just download...like it should be."?

> > >>?

> > >>?

> > >>?

> > >>?? If the band do not recuperate the monies spent on recording the

> album, then

> > >>who do you suggest should pay for the expense of making the album, let

> alone the

> > >>band receiving money in order to venture into any more projects .

> > >>

> > >>?? Why do you feel that you have the right to obtain something for free

> ?

> > >>Whoever put it on rapidshare has done a huge disservice to the band ,

> it was

> > >>previously taken down for a reason and people should have respected

> this .

> > >>Would you feel happy if you spent over a year creating something that

> cost a lot

> > >>of time and effort and expense and when you had completed it, people

> just came

> > >>and took it without paying you for your work ?

> > >>??Its similar to walking down a street, seeing a new house and saying

> "That

> > >>looks nice, I'm going to go and live there", jumping over the wall and

> then

> > >>going to live there.

> > >>The album isnt yours to either give away for free or to download for

> free .

> > >>It is like stealing from family members .

> > >>?

> > >>________________________________

> > From: alexih at hotmail.com

> > >>To: gathering at misera.net

> > >>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:37:42 +0000

> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!

> > >>

> > >>??? THANK YOU Phil!? I just got WAY overcharged for the Soulseek thing

> and

> > >>couldn't find what I was looking for at all.? THIS asks for NO info and

> you just

> > >>download...like it should be.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>?

> > >>Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh Alexi! And

> she

> > >>gives a bloodthirsty scream:

> > >>

> > >>"Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring darkness and mayhem

> like a

> > >>four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"??

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>?

> > >>________________________________

> > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:11:33 +0100

> > >>From: phil.tofield at virgin.net

> > >>To: gathering at misera.net

> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>heres another download link

> > >>

> > >>http://rapidshare.com/files/418088968/KJ-absolute_dissent.zip.html

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>?

> > >>On 9 September 2010 17:05, Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com> wrote:

> > >>

> > >>The file is no longer there. One day out of this mailing list and what

> kind of

> > >>material you may loose!!

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>>I solemnly promise -my right hand on my heart- i?ll buy the new record

> and the

> > >>>singles surrounding this new release.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>Now: Could anybody help me here!?!?

> > >>>

> > >>>All these past days I was thinking not download, not even listen, any

> more new

> > >>>tracks, in order to get an actual real "new CD"; but i really hate to

> read all

> > >>>your posts and have no idea of what you?re talking about. Bring it on

> please!

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>Javier

> > >>>mexico city

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