[kj] You are a thief

F. Luke fluke1 at live.co.uk
Sat Sep 11 01:56:36 EDT 2010



Unauthorised data has been illegally passed on .

Unless you pay for it, then you have no right to own it .

How would you feel if you spent a year putting together a book and a few weeks before it was published someone made copies of it and began distributing it for free ?











Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:11:52 +0000
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief






Oh bugger off. Theft implies the removal of someone else's property. Unless somebody has removed a copy belonging to the band, it isn't theft. I'm guessing the band isn't suddenly missing a copy, and therefore no-one has stolen it.

Nobody buys albums before listening to them one way or another. Nobody. Not even you. And since we all buy the albums regardless, no-one has lost a penny.

Here's the choice: Either I download/preview the album and then buy it, or I don't buy it, because I can't afford to buy albums that turn out to be crap. I download and buy, or I don't buy at all. So unless you would prefer me to give my cash to someone else, shut up.

--- On Fri, 10/9/10, F. Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:


From: F. Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 8:01




I ve left the U.K.
I noticed that a lot of people seem to be dying , and it dawned on me that my time will come soon, so I'll let those Eastern Europeans build the houses and I packed up and am travelling around the World . I am going to find somewhere that I like and live there . I may try to find a rainforest in Indonesia that doesnt have any large spiders , I f'kin hate spiders .
Anyway , I agree that most people on the Gathering will buy the album , but the casual music fan may just download it and not bother buying it upon its release .
Gems of power and cancelled gigs are not deliberate acts of theft , they are projects that didnt materialise . The original intention wasnt to steal or to deceive . Unlike the taking of the music, which is deliberately taking something that you have no right to take .






From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:42:37 +0100
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] You are a thief


Pete!


Wondered where you were! Spectacular re-entry frothing at the mouth.


Every fuckers gonna buy this. You know it!


By the way, when you talk about thievery in the future think about Gems
Of Power and all the money wasted on cancelled gigs.


Copy us in your email to the band won't you?




Back on your horse! Giddy up!








On 10 Sep 2010, at 07:34, "F. Luke" <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:




"THIS asks for NO info and you just download...like it should be."



If the band do not recuperate the monies spent on recording the album, then who do you suggest should pay for the expense of making the album, let alone the band receiving money in order to venture into any more projects .
Why do you feel that you have the right to obtain something for free ?
Whoever put it on rapidshare has done a huge disservice to the band , it was previously taken down for a reason and people should have respected this .
Would you feel happy if you spent over a year creating something that cost a lot of time and effort and expense and when you had completed it, people just came and took it without paying you for your work ?
Its similar to walking down a street, seeing a new house and saying "That looks nice, I'm going to go and live there", jumping over the wall and then going to live there.
The album isnt yours to either give away for free or to download for free .
It is like stealing from family members .



From: alexih at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 02:37:42 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!



THANK YOU Phil! I just got WAY overcharged for the Soulseek thing and couldn't find what I was looking for at all. THIS asks for NO info and you just download...like it should be.




Sprinting along the freeway, brandishing a meaty axe, cometh Alexi! And she gives a bloodthirsty scream:

"Brace yourself, oh human speck of dust! I bring darkness and mayhem like a four-year-old on a sugar rampage!!!"






Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:11:33 +0100
From: phil.tofield at virgin.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelcis leaked - Not up anymore!


heres another download link

http://rapidshare.com/files/418088968/KJ-absolute_dissent.zip.html




On 9 September 2010 17:05, Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com> wrote:

The file is no longer there. One day out of this mailing list and what kind of material you may loose!!

I solemnly promise -my right hand on my heart- i´ll buy the new record and the singles surrounding this new release.

Now: Could anybody help me here!?!?

All these past days I was thinking not download, not even listen, any more new tracks, in order to get an actual real "new CD"; but i really hate to read all your posts and have no idea of what you´re talking about. Bring it on please!

Javier
mexico city
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