[kj] So new album..where does it stand

Rob Moss rob.moss at gmx.com
Fri Sep 10 14:11:20 EDT 2010


It Was the only track that made me go hmmmmmmmmmm.

Now I get it! Some nice changes in there.

great track.
Great album.

Awesome band!

On 10 Sep 2010, at 19:08, "Janean" <j at jlancaster.info> wrote:


> <<<This World Hell: When it began i thought: damn! This is so weird to be the Joke! I felt some dirty Shellac/Big Black atmosphere there.>>>

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> I too thought instantly of Shellac with that track. Love it.

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> Cheers,

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Javier Garcia

> Sent: 10 September 2010 18:51

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

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> Thanks for posting again Phil! This album is really fantastic.

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> Very diverse/eclectic in their approach to the music (is not like 2003 which sound is pretty solid and homogenic), but this only make it richer in sound and textures. There are no "fillers" at my first listen.

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> >Depthcharge: What a damn good powerful evil song!!!!

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> >European Super State: This is a new classic for me, i think i´ll like this forever.

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> >The Great Cull: More magnificent power! Do this guys really are on they 50's!?!?! (Kids time to take some lessons here!)

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> >Here Comes The Singularity: Exciting for bringing back that oldschool KJ vibe. For me is a mix of the "new Joke" with tha "Firedances" felling and "Night Time" style guitar. I wish they do this more often.

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> >The Raven King: Beyond all the homage thing (i can´t understand the lyrics). They are exploring new textures, it´s got some "new wavish" style and the chorus is magnificent. Nostalgic and powerful. Excellent homage to our dear Paul V. Raven.

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> >This World Hell: When it began i thought: damn! This is so weird to be the Joke! I felt some dirty Shellac/Big Black atmosphere there. And then Jaz´s growls approaching from behind like an avalanche!!! A very metal bridge, but like they haven´t done before... Hey! there´s even double bass drumming there!!! Speechless. Again new textures and atmospheres. The end section, after 4:30, is superb!! What a damn good powerful evil song!!!!(yes, again!)

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> >Big Paul: He stands solid as THE DRUMMER of Killing Joke (like if we didn´t know it before ;). The man is in great shape exploring different styles. He amazed me when i saw the guys live in NY (2008) he´s a perfect human-drum-machine (in the best way), super precise, powerful and original. He amazed me again in this album. Hats off Mr. Ferguson!!!!!!

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> >Jaz´s voice: He sings (again) when he needs to sing and growls when he has to do so. In great shape too.

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> Endgame and InExcelsis were not very exciting -alone- for me, but like many others, i think both fit perfect in the album, "Endgame" turns out to be now a very nice track after the mighty "Depthcharge".

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> Now, where does it stands? After listening just a couple of times i put it right next to 2003, but i fear that after listening it more and more it will leave "2003" behind to stand then next to "Democracy" (which i rate pretty high, over Pandemonium). I think i prefer the not-so-dark version of Killing Joke, and this album, even when is very powerful, has in general a joyful feeling.

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> Mis dos pesos

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> Javier G G

> A very excited Killing Joker in Mexico City

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> Date : Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:35:07 -0300

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> From : n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>

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> I know Bo has... I have too, and I always get that way when listening to

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> > which I wasn't crazy about upon listening to it in the single, fits and

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> > *On Behalf Of *n0153 jr

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> > *Sent:* 10 September 2010 12:15

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> > One thing I meant to say and forgot is that even the song In Excelcis,

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> > From: j at jlancaster.info

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> > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:23:34 +0100

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> > Subject: Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

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> > <<< But it's a great album - really enjoying the melody in there and the

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> > fact that Jaz sings on some of the tracks!>>>

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> > Agreed, it is a bloody great album! Fave tracks at the moment are ESS and

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> > The Great Cull. And Endgame. The Raven King is quite moving, as expected.

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> > Needs a few more listens before I can rank it with the others.

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> > Only got to play it twice through last night: I rushed home, fired up the

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> > laptop, and was about to press play when “the missus” came home from work

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> > *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

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> > *On Behalf Of *Rob Moss

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> > *Sent:* 10 September 2010 08:56

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> > *Subject:* Re: [kj] So new album..where does it stand

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> > I think it mostly sits in with 2003 personally. It's got an uptempo vibe -

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> > Raven King reminds me a bit of Sanity).

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> > From: Steve Hackett

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> > Sent: 09/10/10 08:48 AM

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> > Early days but for those who've downloaded it, what do you reckon it

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