[kj] kj] Positive Edinburgh Review: From the Scotsman
Marcel
spooman at freenet.de
Mon Oct 18 18:06:28 EDT 2010
"Don't give the Demon Pigeon guy too hard of a time." ... Right,
boys will be boys or so I'm told...
Marcel
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> 1. Re: Hammersmith highlights (Simon Abinett)
> 2. Positive Edinburgh Review: From the Scotsman (Rheinhold Squeegee)
> 3. Re: Negative Hammersmith review: (jpwhkj at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Negative Hammersmith review: (Simon Abinett)
> 5. Re: Negative Hammersmith review: (pascal)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:12:10 +0000
>From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Hammersmith highlights
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>Playing stuff from Extremties would be one hell of a awesome thing
>to happen so yes i shall do my utmost to not get hopes up for that.
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>As far as openers go i have always thought the perfect song would
>be Struggle including the Kaliyuga intro , always wish they had
>played more than just the first half of EDAVRE album on the tour.
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>Termite mound , Hum , Communion all really good but Struggle would
>be the best ever , love to hear Big Paul give it a go!
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>From: matt_tibbits at hotmail.com
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:35:09 +0000
>Subject: Re: [kj] Hammersmith highlights
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>I don't want to raise expectations but Jaz was talking in Brussels
>about doing an Extremities based performance/gig at some point. The
>Revelations era brings back too many bad memories for Youth, sadly.
>We should rejoice that we heard The Hum at the Forum. Jaz is
>completely off doing anything from BTATS live. I think he associates
>it with OTG and the break up of the band.
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>There'll never be a gig that pleases everyone. It's great that they
>are playing so many new songs but I would have loved Singularity. I
>would have also loved Sun Goes Down, Feast of Blaze or Dominator.
>Blood On Your Hands or something other than Asteroid from KJ2003
>would have been good, too. How well would The Gathering go down!?
>You never know though. How many of us would have predicted three
>years ago that they'd be opening their set now with Tomorrow's World
>and playing Madness? Probably right about the Raven comment though -
>we're less likely to hear obscure songs from the albums he did.
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:12:46 +0100
>From: paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Hammersmith highlights
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>Seems Youth is no more keen on Revelations now than he was at the
>time. Tragedy. Fire Dances is the most "Raven" of all the albums so
>maybe he's not keen to revisit that either. BTaTS wasn't the easiest
>album to perform live although they seemed to do ok on the BBC CD.
>OTG - forget it. ED&VRE was written to be performed live. Very sad
>that they've decided to neglect this one. Inexplicable and
>inexcusable! Democracy and HFtBoH possibly considered weak albums.
>Looks like we're doomed to hear first album, Pssyche, Change, plus
>new stuff and a few over-familiar "classics". Don't get me wrong,
>gigs are still great. When you're there the songs come to life all
>over again and even Requiem, which I lost interest in years ago (the
>studio version) is awesome. Just bit of a shame we're missing out on
>even better experiences.
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>Pleased to hear talk of a new album but hope they don't rush it and
>we have another Democracy on our hands. Can't believe I'm saying it
>but: take you time, lads!
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>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>How was the sound? And does the general euphoria of the show
>compensate for what
>I think is a slightly disappointing set list (in terms of the same
>old songs reappearing). Does
>anyone hold out any chance of our fantasy set lists ever becoming
>reality or do you think
>large chunks of the back catalogue will never again see the light of day?
>Just thinking aloud...
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:12:18 -0500
>From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>Subject: [kj] Positive Edinburgh Review: From the Scotsman
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>Don't give the Demon Pigeon guy too hard of a time. Based on the
>rest of his blog, it appears he only listens to / reviews the kind
>of sad-sack gargle metal that we all find risible. KJ's latest
>choice of label have pointed many of these unfortunates in our
>direction, and many more have turned away, confused and
>disheartened. I imagine Tears for Fears were the only non-metal band
>he could think of at the time.
>
>There are a large volume of people for whom KJ only exist since
>1985, or 1994 or 2003.
>
>Anyway, here's a nice live review of the Edinburgh show. Yes, it
>really does say "Killing Joe."
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>http://news.scotsman.com/arts/Music-review-Killing-Joe.6585426.jp
>Music review: Killing Joe
> By Fiona Shepherd
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>KILLING JOKE
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>PICTURE HOUSE, EDINBURGH
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>****
>To this day, Killing Joke are still the only band to ever really
>scare me with a performance. Thirty years into their career, they
>remain a fierce, potent proposition, playing with an almost
>intimidating intensity to outstrip any of their peers and most of
>their punk/metal progeny.
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>Following the untimely death of bassist Paul Raven, they have come
>full circle with their line-up, reforming the original gang of
>renegades: bruiser drummer Big Paul Ferguson, Loki-like frontman Jaz
>Coleman ? by day a respected classical composer/arranger, by night a
>demonic shaman ? and, flanking him, the unflappable six-string
>alchemist Geordie and bassist/world renowned producer Youth. He's
>the balding, grey-haired guy in the golf visor, by the way.
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>Together, they generated a piledriving force and inexorable momentum
>which was by turns thrilling and exhausting.
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>The majority of this set was plain brute force, with much of the
>subtlety of Geordie's distinctive guitar sound lost in the
>totalitarian assault.
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>These guys could whip up a mob so easily with declamatory
>calls-to-arms such as Wardance and the monolithic majesty of
>Requiem, not to mention Coleman's brief sermons on the economic
>apocalypse and other philosophical matters rarely addressed by a rock band.
>But they could equally incite the none-too-sprightly audience to
>dance with the underlying funkiness of Love Like Blood and the pagan
>stomp of Eighties.
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>Long may they light fires and rage hard.
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:06:53 -0400
>From: jpwhkj at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
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>Well, as someone said, each to their own, but it's a bit of a
>mystery why he bothered.
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>He obviously thinks he's very funny, but, er, he's not. I'm not
>insulted / outraged by any of it; it's just piss-poor.
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>Also - was the stage really obscured by dry ice? Not from where I
>was, but maybe from the seats... anyone?
>
>Jamie
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:52
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
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> >From the review
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>That?s the Killing Joke fanbase then, 70% aging punks, 15%
>nu-metallers and 15% goths. Not sure what that makes me
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>The answer.
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>A cunt.
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>On 18 Oct 2010, at 20:47, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
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>TFF? FFS. That review was funny but didn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>demonpigeon.com? trashbat.cock more like. WASSUP MA NIGGERS!
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>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:
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>I welcome objective feedback, especially from people unfamilar with
>the band. I have never agreed with the "you're not entitled to your
>opinion unless you're a fan" nonsense.
>
>But this guy spends the entire review slamming the audience,
>practising his similes and doesn't even get to the band until the
>last paragraph.
>
>Very bitter, maybe because he saw his future...
>
>http://www.demonpigeon.com/2010/10/18/killing-joke/
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:16:26 +0000
>From: Simon Abinett <louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
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>It just proves the guy does not have a clue , there was not even any
>dry ice on the stage at any time.
>He spends all his time slagging off the peope that he sees whilst
>upstairs in the circle , while all the real fans are obviously downstairs.
>Tears for Fears being compared to K.J i mean what a fuckwit.
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:06:53 -0400
>From: jpwhkj at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
>
>
>Well, as someone said, each to their own, but it's a bit of a
>mystery why he bothered.
>
>He obviously thinks he's very funny, but, er, he's not. I'm not
>insulted / outraged by any of it; it's just piss-poor.
>
>Also - was the stage really obscured by dry ice? Not from where I
>was, but maybe from the seats... anyone?
>
>Jamie
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:52
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
>
>
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> >From the review
>
>
>That?s the Killing Joke fanbase then, 70% aging punks, 15%
>nu-metallers and 15% goths. Not sure what that makes me
>
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>
>
>
>
>The answer.
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>A cunt.
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>On 18 Oct 2010, at 20:47, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
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>TFF? FFS. That review was funny but didn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>demonpigeon.com? trashbat.cock more like. WASSUP MA NIGGERS!
>
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>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com> wrote:
>
>
>I welcome objective feedback, especially from people unfamilar with
>the band. I have never agreed with the "you're not entitled to your
>opinion unless you're a fan" nonsense.
>
>But this guy spends the entire review slamming the audience,
>practising his similes and doesn't even get to the band until the
>last paragraph.
>
>Very bitter, maybe because he saw his future...
>
>http://www.demonpigeon.com/2010/10/18/killing-joke/
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>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:13:22 +0200
>From: "pascal" <pascal at ledooz.com>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
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>The answer.
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>A cunt.
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>Warm, soft and sensitive Then?
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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
>Behalf Of Rob Moss
>Sent: 18 October 2010 22:53
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Subject: Re: [kj] Negative Hammersmith review:
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> >From the review
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>That's the Killing Joke fanbase then, 70% aging punks, 15% nu-metallers and
>15% goths. Not sure what that makes me
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>The answer.
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>A cunt.
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>On 18 Oct 2010, at 20:47, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>TFF? FFS. That review was funny but didn't make any sense whatsoever.
>
> <http://demonpigeon.com> demonpigeon.com? trashbat.cock
><http://www.trashbat.co.ck/> more like. WASSUP MA NIGGERS!
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>On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Rheinhold Squeegee <
><mailto:kjlist at live.com> kjlist at live.com> wrote:
>
>I welcome objective feedback, especially from people unfamilar with the
>band. I have never agreed with the "you're not entitled to your opinion
>unless you're a fan" nonsense.
>
>But this guy spends the entire review slamming the audience, practising his
>similes and doesn't even get to the band until the last paragraph.
>
>Very bitter, maybe because he saw his future...
>
> <http://www.demonpigeon.com/2010/10/18/killing-joke/>
>http://www.demonpigeon.com/2010/10/18/killing-joke/
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