[kj] Dads' gay disco

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Mon Oct 18 04:17:27 EDT 2010


Blimey. You're going to have to buy him a golden harp.





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From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
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Brilliant !!



Little Geordie..

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/Malicioussteve/?action=view&current=littlegeordie.jpg

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From: Steve Hackett
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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:04 PM
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I took my 12 yr old lad..and my (considerably older) wife. Arrived at Euston about half 12 and realised my lad was looking decidedly ill..he threw up into a handy carrier bag whilst I bought underground tix (thanks to the undercover cop in the Arsenal shirt who made sure he was ok and arranged for said vomitary depositary to be collected)..he then threw up again between tube journeys and again at the hotel. Things were looking grim.., even grimmer when he threw up in the middle of our bed!! At 5pm the decision was taken that only I would go to the gig (what a great weekend..) but at 5.30 something miraculous happened (touched by the hand of Jaz?), his migraine disappeared and he tucked into some crisps and choccy biscuits. At 6pm he announced he was ready and donned his gig wear. His evening was made as we joined the queue and two blokes shouted it's Little Geordie! (he was wearing a Russian army cap and KJ themed hammer n sickle), then when we entered the foyer we saw them again and they insisted on bowing to him and shaking "Little Geordie's hand". Seats were front row of the balcony and initially the mgmt tried to move us, as the seats "were reserved"..I know FOR ME!!. So we sat next to some obviously "special" people and (my wife thinks) "Mrs" Reza. Anyway, you know the set was great and it was wonderful to sit there with my lad singing all the words and loving both the new and old songs. He told me today that it was the best gig he'd been to so far..and I have taken him to some good ones!

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Particular mention must go to Rob Moss, down the front with his son and his son's mate, joined by me with my daughter.

I'd had a conversation with her earlier along these lines:

Me: Lots of ageing, podgy, balding punks here.
Her: Yeah, but actually quite a lot of younger people too.
Me: They're the ones who have come with their dads.

How many other gatherers brought their kids?

Jamie






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From: jpwhkj at aol.com
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Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:17
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Yep, fantastic night.

We arrived very late - too late for the pub, unfortunately - but saw a fair spread of Gatherers inside. The crowd was enthusiastic, and the band on fine form. I spent the first few tracks and the occasional rest period later on just watching Geordie. Incredible as ever. That aside, it was into the pit for some honest sweaty fun!

Musical highlights for me were:

Absolute Dissent - this got chopped from the setlist at Bristol, and it's one of my faves off the album. I was struck again by the similarity of the riff to Pssyche.

European Super State - wonderful bouncy dance number.

Requiem - judderingly powerful version, really wound up the crowd.

Eighties - what a monster song this is! Crunching, triumphant...

Asteroid - my daughter loves this one, so watching her disappear into the pit reminded that actually I quite like it too!

Change - great till the silly sirens kicked in. But the start was awesomely hard and funky.

Pssyche - everyone went crazy, as the song deserves.

Much else was also of very high quality (Primitive, Tomorrow's World, Bloodsport, Complications, Love Like Blood, Fall of Because, The Wait). Definitely buying the CD set.

Musical disappointments:

Ghosts - probably the one I was looking forward to the most. As Rob said to me at the time - it was just a bit flat.

Kali Yuga & Singularity - because they didn't play them. OK, I wasn't really expecting them to, but...

When Jaz said he wanted to introduce his friends, I thought we were going to get the usual "this is so-and-so on guitar" (cheers), "this is so-and-so on bass" (cheers) etc etc. You've all heard it somewhere. But in fact, it was a deep, heartfelt, and very individual tribute to the rest of the Joke. It was odd that Raven didn't get a mention though.

Cheers,

Jamie






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From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 10:20
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But markedly no reference to Raven. 3 years this week!


Fabulous night. Great to see so many gatherers!
Had a lovely time at the gay disco down the front with Jamie, Dirk and Paul Stronkle!




On 17 Oct 2010, at 09:23, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:




One was definitely John Hinklenton (spelling according to Wiki). Not sure about the other, but Youth's dad would make sense.





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From: pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net>
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I believe it was Youth’s father (Alan Glover) and John Hinkleton (the Judge Dread artist who spent time in the studio with KJ and later checked into Dignitas) ... but you are right that previously it has been dedicated to Ron and Ron ...


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: 17 October 2010 01:22
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Subject: Re: [kj] Hammersmith highlights



Great summary, thanks lots for it.




> ..LLB next. It was dedicated to two people. Don't know who.




I think the two persons Love Like Blood is dedicated to are Jaz's and Geordie's fathers, as in past. (both are deceased).






From: nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 5:08:40 PM
Subject: [kj] Hammersmith highlights


It was a long gig. They must have played the entire first album, except SO36. From memory, other albums visited were: WTF (Madness, Fall of Because); Nighttime (80s, LLB); Pandemonium (Pandemonium); KJ 2003 (Asteroid|); Absolute Dissent (AD, This World Hell, In Excelsis, European Super State... and others but I forget now). Also Change and Pssyche.

It was reported on the Gathering recently that Geordie was seen to smile on stage. I can report that he was smiling tonight too, a hell of a lot. He must have some good stash at the moment. He did not smoke on stage (not that I saw) and I doubt he even had time to have one in the break. Nor was there a bottle of wine on the amp. It's like he's being professional, or something.

They opened with Tomorrow's World. Youth's bass wasn't working at first. They then did LLB next. It was dedicated to two people. Don't know who. To my ear, Youth messed it up a bit in the instrumental break, or perhaps it was a mixing problem.

If there was one song that really got the crowd up it was Requiem, which came about half way through. The rendition was momentous, the sound cavernous. Everyone in the crowd knew the lyrics. It was the best moment and I hope they never drop it from the set list. Requiem seemed to launch the final absolutely frenzied half of the gig. They just went mental. Unfortunately I was having a standing-at-the-back-watching-type gig as I was with a mate who isn't a fan. I wish in hindsight it had been an in-the-pit gig because the set list was superb. They've obviously totally scrapped the old predictable roster of Communiun, Frenzy etc - though War Dance featured prominently at about three or four songs in. And it was crap. Youth didn't even play that nice litte doink-doink-doink bit on the harmonics.

I must say, Youth has really grown on me. He's cool.

A Jaz moment: "Every concert I'm always asked about 2012. The truth is, I don't know. But I do know one thing..." Unforturnately, Gatherers, my hearing let me down here, so if anyone can fill in the gap. They then launched into Asteroid.

Also: "We want a European superstate so we can put Blair, Rumsfeld and Cheney on trial."

Another moment, just before the last song, Jaz gives the thank-yous: "I first want to thank this man here. Geordie. Geordie is the most tenacious... He's the only other member of Killing Joke that has been at every Killing Joke event since we started... I love him, he's a brother.... [Jaz then thanks the drum roadie, calling him, I think, the Stud Roadie, but I may have miss-heard; he then thanks the manager, saying he's the best they've ever had; he thanks the guitar roadie, saying he can remember him coming to KJ gigs with his school satchel]...Youth, Youth has brought so much honour and glory to the Killing Joke family; and finally Big Paul, without whom there would be no Killing Joke at all."

All the above is open to correction and clarifications by others. It's a bit late. I'm home now eating peanut butter on toast and watching a Tony Curtis film.











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