[kj] London here comes the regularity!!

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 4 19:07:14 EDT 2010


I find "This World Hell" to be more post-Democracy, Drug, or KJ2003-ish.  It's
missing that urgency, that indignant sense of "fuck you, I mean it!" feel of
Extremities, Dirt, And Various Repressed Emotions.

 

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From: "LONESTYLE at aol.com" <LONESTYLE at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 1:11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] London here comes the regularity!!

That's true. World Hell is far from it.


~ LB

In a message dated 10/4/2010 10:07:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
vassifer at earthlink.net writes:
I don't really hear much in common particularly between "this World Hell" and
EXTREMITIES, really. 

>

>

>Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive any typos. I'm still finding my way with the

>texting apparatus. - Alex

>

>On Oct 4, 2010, at 11:49 AM, jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:

>

>

>This World Hell: because I don't like it!  And no, Extremities as a whole

>doesn't do much for me these days.  I have very fond memories of it, because it

>was such a feckin relief after OTG (and the gigs were incredible - definitely

>one of the best KJ tours).  But I don't play it often.

>>

>>Haven't listened to the tribute CD yet... but then the AD CD hasn't come out of

>>the CD player yet.

>>

>>Current overall fave: Here Comes the Singularity.

>>

>>Jamie

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: andrew scott <brandymoth at yahoo.co.uk>

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Sent: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 15:43

>>Subject: Re: [kj] London here comes the regularity!!

>>

>>

>>Why are people slagging off This World Hell?  Definitely one of my favourite

>>tracks on the LP. And at The Fleece came out really well, better than Great

>>Cull & Depthcharge I thought.   Maybe u don't like Extremities either then which

>>to my mind is still their best work along with early stuff, ie1979-81.  Having

>>heard the Tribute LP now as well, am very pleased with package as whole. 

>>However nearly all the bands seemed to be playing the songs straight rather than

>>giving new take on them.  Finnish language version interesting though, maybe we

>>need more foreign language versions.  What happened to the grunting on Primitive

>>though?  Shame.  I must say that the Nouvelle Vague verson of Psyche was

>>somewhat different & interesting, if had been in pub may not have recognised it

>>as such unless concentrated on words.  However without having checked out the

>>band, could it be another Cinema Bizzarro type genocidal crime?

>>

>>

>>The Fungus Moth.

>> 

>>Challenging the Future.

>>

>>--- On Sun, 3/10/10, gathering-request at misera.net <gathering-request at misera.net>

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>>>   1. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>      (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)

>>>   2. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (Rob Moss)

>>>   3. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>      (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)

>>>   4. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>      (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)

>>>   5. Spare London ticket (Matt Dunn)

>>>   6. Re: Spare London ticket (Jim Harper)

>>>   7. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (LONESTYLE at aol.com)

>>>   8. Re: New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010 (LONESTYLE at aol.com)

>>>   9. Re: Spare London ticket (Rob Moss)

>>>  10. Re: (OT) Now & Then (Brendan)

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>>>Message: 1

>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 13:49:20 +0100

>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

>>>    <gathering at misera.net>

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>>>Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too low

>>>in the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too high, than

>>>the bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little shaky too,

>>>but again, we'll see!

>>>

>>>Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album (apart

>>>from This World Hell!)

>>>

>>>Dave in... Edinburgh

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>sade1 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will

>>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!

>>>>

>>>>++++++++

>>>>

>>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different

>>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio.  The big

>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's

>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.

>>>>

>>>>T.B.

>>>>

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>>>Message: 2

>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 14:31:35 +0100

>>>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>    <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Message-ID: <060A3E96-AA64-47CF-8F98-B3217DC33937 at gmx.com>

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>>>So many sound engineers do that. It's incredible the amount of times it's

>>>happened to us but also at gigs I've paid to see.

>>>

>>>

>>>I presume they're using their own man?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 13:49, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

>>>

>>>> Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too low in

>>>>the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too high, than the

>>>>bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little shaky too, but again,

>>>>we'll see!

>>>>

>>>> Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album (apart from

>>>>This World Hell!)

>>>>

>>>> Dave in... Edinburgh

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>> sade1 wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will enjoy

>>>>>them live. You da' Man!

>>>>>

>>>>> ++++++++

>>>>>

>>>>> There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different tapers

>>>>>of this show and both are lossless audio.  The big

>>>>> complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's

>>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.

>>>>>

>>>>> T.B.

>>>>>

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>>>Message: 3

>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 16:26:35 +0100

>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

>>>    <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20101003162409.02e01d40 at pop3.easynet.co.uk>

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>>>I would hope they're using their own soundman, but you never know! Was

>>>speaking to someone the next night who said they spent the whole gig trying

>>>to get the guy to turn Geordie up! Don't think they succeeded

>>>though!   Gonna have a listen now and see!

>>>

>>>Dave in Edinburgh

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>At 14:31 03/10/2010 +0100, you wrote:

>>>>So many sound engineers do that. It's incredible the amount of times it's

>>>>happened to us but also at gigs I've paid to see.

>>>>

>>>>I presume they're using their own man?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 13:49, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

>>>>

>>>> > Looking forward to having a listen, thanks. Yeah, Geordie was way too

>>>> low in the mix at the gig. It seemed to me more drums and vocals too

>>>> high, than the bass, but we'll see. Some of the new songs seemed a little

>>>> shaky too, but again, we'll see!

>>>> >

>>>> > Really looking forward to Edinburgh, and still loving the new album

>>>> (apart from This World Hell!)

>>>> >

>>>> > Dave in... Edinburgh

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:

>>>> >> sade1 wrote:

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I

>>>> will enjoy them live. You da' Man!

>>>> >>

>>>> >> ++++++++

>>>> >>

>>>> >> There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two

>>>> different tapers of this show and both are lossless audio.  The big

>>>> >> complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix,

>>>> he's getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> T.B.

>>>> >>

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>>>Message: 4

>>>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 17:18:13 +0100

>>>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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>>>Definitely too quiet on the guitar front. In fact, now I recall, the whole

>>>gig was too quiet! People shouldn't be able to talk!

>>>

>>>

>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>sade1 wrote:

>>>>

>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min 40secs. I will

>>>>enjoy them live. You da' Man!

>>>>

>>>>++++++++

>>>>

>>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one of them) from two different

>>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless audio.  The big

>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more prominent in the mix, he's

>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and Youth.

>>>>

>>>>T.B.

>>>>

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>>>Message: 5

>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:48:38 +0100

>>>From: "Matt Dunn" <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>

>>>Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket

>>>To: <gathering at misera.net>

>>>Message-ID: <000001cb632b$976d5720$c6480560$@com>

>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

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>>>A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if

>>>anyone is interested? I'd just like to get my money back if possible (I'll

>>>cover the booking fee).

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Please contact me off list.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Matt

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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 19:15:00 +0000 (GMT)

>>>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Spare London ticket

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

>>>    <gathering at misera.net>

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>>>I may also have a london ticket available. Got dragged in for emergency surgery

>>>and probably won't be in any fit shape for the gig, something I am most

>>>definitetly not happy about.

>>>?

>>>Jim.

>>>

>>>--- On Sun, 3/10/10, Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>From: Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>

>>>Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 19:48

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if anyone

>>>is interested? I?d just like to get my money back if possible (I?ll cover the

>>>booking fee).

>>>?

>>>Please contact me off list.

>>>?

>>>Matt

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>>>Message: 7

>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:10:00 EDT

>>>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

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>>>The sound isn't bad.... It's just that you can hear people talking here and

>>>there.

>>>

>>>~ LB

>>>

>>>

>>>In a message dated 10/2/2010 7:57:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

>>>planetary at socal.rr.com writes:

>>>

>>>sade1  wrote:

>>>

>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In 12min  40secs. I will

>>>enjoy them live. You da'  Man!

>>>

>>>++++++++

>>>

>>>There's actually two recordings (this is one  of them) from two different

>>>tapers of this show and both are lossless  audio.  The big

>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs to be more  prominent in the mix, he's

>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul and  Youth.

>>>

>>>T.B.

>>>

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>>>Message: 8

>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:17:31 EDT

>>>From: LONESTYLE at aol.com

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ Bootleg From Amsterdam Sept 2010

>>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>>Message-ID: <d36c3.f6f440.39da3edb at aol.com>

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>>>Yes, the talking is a bit too much.

>>>

>>>~ LB

>>>

>>>

>>>In a message dated 10/3/2010 9:18:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 

>>>gingoblin at easynet.co.uk writes:

>>>

>>>Definitely too quiet on the guitar front. In fact, now I recall,  the whole

>>>gig was too quiet! People shouldn't be able to  talk!

>>>

>>>

>>>At 19:56 02/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:

>>>>sade1  wrote:

>>>>

>>>>Big thanks for this link; am downloading it now. In  12min 40secs. I will

>>>>enjoy them live. You da'  Man!

>>>>

>>>>++++++++

>>>>

>>>>There's actually two recordings  (this is one of them) from two different

>>>>tapers of this show and both  are lossless audio.  The big

>>>>complaint seems to be Geordie needs  to be more prominent in the mix, he's

>>>>getting drowned out by Big Paul  and  Youth.

>>>>

>>>>T.B.

>>>>

>>>>

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>>>Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 21:16:47 +0100

>>>From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Spare London ticket

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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>>>Get well soon Jim!!

>>>Sorry to hear that.

>>>

>>>On 3 Oct 2010, at 20:15, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>>

>>>> I may also have a london ticket available. Got dragged in for emergency surgery

>>>>and probably won't be in any fit shape for the gig, something I am most

>>>>definitetly not happy about.

>>>> 

>>>> Jim.

>>>>

>>>> --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> From: Matt Dunn <mattdunn at ntlworld.com>

>>>> Subject: [kj] Spare London ticket

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 19:48

>>>>

>>>> A mate has let me down so I have a spare ticket for London on the 16th if

>>>>anyone is interested? I?d just like to get my money back if possible (I?ll cover

>>>>the booking fee).

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>> Please contact me off list.

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>

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>>>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:46:50 +1300 (NZDT)

>>>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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>>>Ill design it. 100% of the time it'd return the answer:

>>>

>>>"She's a lying slut"

>>>

>>>It'd be accurate most of the time, and ther rest of the time it'd be a

>>>great conversation starter.

>>>

>>>> Is there an app for my phone that I can hold up to a girl (profile, back

>>>> or

>>>> front??view) that will tell you her name, age, measurements??and address,

>>>> preferences,??relevant experience, 'resume' '??and will also download

>>>> her??entire

>>>> past??and present dating history and internet footprint?

>>>> And what kind of food she likes.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ??

>>>>

>>>> ________________________________

>>>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>

>>>> To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>>>> Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 10:35:30 AM

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then

>>>>

>>>> My gf has that app for her iPhone. The depth of catalog is astounding and

>>>> it

>>>> even differentiates between the Peel Sessions KJ disc and the original

>>>> issues.

>>>> ??

>>>> It's a real blow to us music nerds who used to be able to impress women

>>>> with our

>>>> vast musical knowledge and ability to beat everyone in the record store at

>>>> "Name

>>>> That Tune."

>>>>

>>>> I know. What's a record store?

>>>> ??

>>>> ??

>>>> ________________________________

>>>> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:29:30 -0700

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Now & Then

>>>>

>>>> I forwarded this to a friend, and this is the reply I got;

>>>> "A friend of mine doesn???t google the 2 lines he remembers, he holds his

>>>> iPhone

>>>> to the radio and it tells him the band, song name and album in about 5-10

>>>> seconds!"

>>>> ??

>>>>

>>>> ??

>>>> ________________________________

>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:35:26 +0100

>>>> From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Subject: [kj] (OT) Now & Then

>>>>

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