[kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

Bette Dillinger bettedillinger at live.com
Tue May 11 21:16:26 EDT 2010



You seem to think that anyone who doesn't agree with your point is missing it. Yo comprendo, you rogue and upstart!



Bette...........................



From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:14:40 -0400
CC: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video


Again you're missing the point. The point is that MIA is being a hypocrite.

Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive any typos. I'm still finding my way with the texting apparatus. - Alex

On May 6, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:




I dunno, Alex, I just know Gaga used the exact chord progression from "All the Young Dudes" for one song, and one of her songs uses a sample from Abba's "Fernando". It really should be called "Rob Fusari's Experiment". And I don't care about her stuff.
MIA specifically referred to Lady Gaga sounding exactly like her on the beginning of Wale's "Chillin" single, without giving MIA any credit (thus her beef with Lady Gaga "sounding more like me than I do").

Did MIA give credit to The Clash and Suicide? Yes.
Did MIA receive any monies from the hit "Chillin"? No. Wale also stated he wanted Lady Gaga to sound like MIA and gave her directives to vocalize in that fashion.




From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:17:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video




Well, if you really want to split hairs, I don't believe Lady Gaga DOES use any samples, but that's not really the point. The point is that M.I.A. - however great her tunes might be (I, for one, loved "Paper Planes") -- shouldn't be shooting her mouth off at someone else about originality when the basis of her own hits are culled from other people's records. And yes -- samples *can* indeed be inventively utilized, but in the cases of both "Born Free" and "Paper Planes," it really is just a fucking loop.


Alex in NYC




On May 6, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote:

We ALL know that there are no samples in Laddy Gaga's music. She is the sole force behind it as well. WTF?



Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 08:06:26 -0700
From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net
CC: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video




Yeah, well, you know how woman can be. Reeeeow!!!!

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From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 6:55:18 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video




I'm familiar with it, thank, Leigh -- you cheeky monkey -- but this is coming off of recent comments wherein she tore the likes of Lady Gaga a new one for not being remotely original. Pardon me, but when you're sampling thirty-year old records, that hardly makes you a pioneer.


Alex in NYC






On May 5, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Leigh Newton wrote:




Yup, it's called sampling. Look into it. ;)

Great song, btw. The M.I.A. one. And the Suicide one. Both good.


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From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 11:26:59 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video


Yep, basically a loop of the intro. Well done, but not exactly pushing any envelopes.

M.I.A. = the new millennial MC Hammer?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
From: folk devil
Sent: May 5, 2010 11:24 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

wasn't her last single a huge slab of straight to hell, by the clash?


> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:00:55 -0400

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

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> No, it's not a bad tune.... in as much in that it's simply Suicide's "Ghost Rider" with M.I.A. blabbering away on top of it.

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> I like her, but really.....

>

> Alex in NYC

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> -----Original Message-----

> >From: "Paul Gorman [Laptop]" <PaulGorman at ireland.com>

> >Sent: May 5, 2010 10:29 AM

> >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>

> >Subject: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

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> >http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd2w3j_m-i-a-born-free-video-official-real_

> >music

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> >Just thought might be of interest to some, rather graphic video, but with a

> >few messages, MIA tune not bad either ...lol

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> >dub

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