[kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

[Leigh Newton]

Don't agree with ripping on Paper Planes at all. 

What M.I.A. (actually, Diplo is the one who probably put the track together or maybe they both did, anyway...) did was take a part from the Clash tune that features for about 20 seconds maximum in the original song and made an entirely new song with it. It's like they saw the potential in that one short part of Straight to Hell, isolated it, expanded upon it and it takes on a life of its own, completely indepenant of Straight to Hell. That, to me, is the exact opposite of lazy. 

I've never understood why something is automatically qualified because it was played on a guitar and why something is immediately invalidated because it is based on a pre-existing piece of music. There is a difference between the two, of course, but don't automatically assume that the latter is the inferior approach or whatever.

MIA ripping on Lady Gaga is pretty dumb, I agree. Not because MIA has problems of her own, more to do with the fact that Lady Gaga deals specifically in the Top 40 realm so, as edgy as she might seem (yeah right), she's obviously got a lot of other people to please other than herself. All of which makes her an easy target. I like MIA WAY more than I like Lady Gaga. But I still like Lady Gaga (except for that new Fernando song which sucks shit).

Leigh

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From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
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Surely you'll agree that there's a difference between imitating a guitar riff and LITERALLY USING SOMEONE ELSE'S RECORDING, no?

Look, sampling's nothing new. I can name handfuls of acts from all over the spectrum -- from Timbaland through fuckin' Cop Shoot Cop -- who utilized the sampler in new, inventive and innovative ways, but when you're just using a repeated loop (like "Born Free," "Paper Planes" and -- WAIT FOR IT -- "U Can't Touch This"), it seems a bit lazy, no?

And once again -- I much prefer MIA's music to Lady Gaga's, but my point was that she should tend to her own fuckin' garden before mouthing off about anyone else's.

Alex in NYC





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>I am also going to split hairs, but for how long have guitarists been doing 'variations' of a twelve bar in rock music?

>It was OK for the Rolling Stones to rip from LeadBelly endlessly, but as soon as the Verve take a rip from them, they sue.

>For me, it's the end sound that's important. Anything done to excess gets boring.

>Where 'guitar' music is in question, I am more likely to gravitate towards KJ, Radiohead or even Kasabian, as they actually tweek things into something slightly different..

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>I'm familiar with it, thank, Leigh -- you cheeky monkey -- but this is coming off of recent comments wherein she tore the likes of Lady Gaga a new one for not being remotely original. Pardon me, but when you're sampling thirty-year old records, that hardly makes you a pioneer.

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