[kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

[Karen Weil]

I'm not giving out brownie points for anything. Just an observation.

Cheers,

k.w.
SoCal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding


So a muslim scientist furthers science in some way...how do their muslim
beliefs come into it? You'd think science would get the kudos for that...

Really, are we giving out brownie points now because countries under
Sharia law allow or allowed some limited science to progress? That's weak.



> Jim makes a really good point. At one time, the Islamic world was a leader

> in numerous fields. Sadly, that's not the case now -- and in part because

> of that faith's twisted views about women -- in many cases, not being able

> to fully participate in all sects of society -- numerous Middle Eastern

> countries badly lag in economic and scientific areas.

> Iranian clerics recently blaming earthquakes on cleavage is the epitome of

> that.

>

> Karen W.

> SoCal

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: Jim Harper

>   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>   Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 5:42 AM

>   Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

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>         Just to bring the topic around to the start again, science and

> technology in the Middle Ages were heavily influenced by Islam and

> Islamic culture, much more so than Christianity.

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>         Jim.

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>         --- On Fri, 7/5/10, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:

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>           From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>

>           Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and

> Understanding

>           To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

>           Date: Friday, 7 May, 2010, 13:37

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>           On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 12:05 AM, GREG SLAWSON

> <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

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>             You're implying below that science somehow flourished

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>           has science flourished in our culture? YES.

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>             due to the influence of christianity--

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>           has our culture been influenced by christianity? YES.

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>           this grossly oversimplifies the point i was trying to make, but

> i would like it if you were able to understand the point i am

> trying to make.. my communication skills must need honing...

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>           anyhoo

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>           religion has had its good influence, and its bad.. alot of the

> good influences over the centuries have been subtle and

> overlooked, but have given us the social environment we live in

> today..  i just wanted to say that.

>           thats about it really.

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>           fuck words, bring on telepathy!

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>             From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com

>             Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 21:55:01 +1200

>             To: gathering at misera.net

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>             Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and

> Understanding

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>             On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Brendan

> <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

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>               So weâ?Tve got:

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>               Religion

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>               The Magna Carta

>               Something to do with the attitudes of the guys who wrote the

> Declaration of Independence

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>               Science

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>               Pretty much everything useful ever invented, and didnâ?Tt

> cause heaps of genocide.

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>             should the analytical Brendan that i know, take a devils

> advocate view to what he has just writ, he would have no

> trouble tearing it to shreds!

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>             did you comprehend the point/s i was trying to make? and the

> repercussions?? YOUR personal and political (ha!) freedom is

> (in part) the result of hundreds of years of good people

> trying to be good people via the message of the bible. can you

> see that?

>             our culture in which science is flourishing, is because of our

> history, which includes the christian backdrop.. i am not

> saying this is the truth and that i believe it and will smite

> thee who disagree, but i would like to express this view and

> make it understood that merely slamming all things religion is

> rather shallow and ill thought.

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>             the double edged sword of religion, has killed with the lust

> of the devil, and has also shown love and forgiveness that

> would bring tears to the eyes of all here. i shit you not.

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>             this would be so much more fun over a smoke and a drink!

>             my tone is always friendly, even if it gets heated - fonts

> dont express my childish glee!

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